Re: [dd] starting charter text for the DELEG BOF discussion
Manu Bretelle <chantr4@gmail.com> Tue, 05 March 2024 20:27 UTC
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Subject: Re: [dd] starting charter text for the DELEG BOF discussion
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On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 7:59 AM Ralf Weber <dns@fl1ger.de> wrote: > Moin! > > On 2 Mar 2024, at 21:39, Wes Hardaker wrote: > > [..] > > # Objective and Scope > > > > To address these challenges, the working group will first develop the > requirements for adding a new signaling mechanism that allows parents to > return DNS delegation information to resolvers. > > Given that there is current work on actual protocol ideas that would stall > that. I’m ok with a requirements document and changing the spec, but I > don’t want to stall that work, so maybe delete “first” from that sentence. > > > > The working group will also list the other types of information not > available today that might be be provided over a designed signaling > mechanism. > > > > The working group will then define the semantics of a new signaling > mechanism, taking future extensibility into account. > > > > The first use case for this DNS delegation signalling mechanism is > expected to be delegation aliasing, where the parent returns a pointer to > service provider that will then return the needed delegation information. > > This use case has been discussed for many years in the DNSOP and other > Working Groups. > > While this is one use case it might no be the first that finishes, so IMHO > we should maybe use that as an example and having a generic additional use > cases for the delegation mechanism in the charter. > > Agreed, we should make sure that AliasMode and ServiceMode DELEG are being designed alongside so we don't end up cornering ourself with conflicting modes. While delegation aliasing is an important use case, I think transport upgrade is also an important one that has had us running circles for a while and treating this as a first class citizen use-case is important IMO. Manu
- [dd] starting charter text for the DELEG BOF disc… Wes Hardaker
- Re: [dd] starting charter text for the DELEG BOF … Peter Thomassen
- Re: [dd] starting charter text for the DELEG BOF … George Michaelson
- Re: [dd] [Ext] starting charter text for the DELE… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [dd] starting charter text for the DELEG BOF … Ralf Weber
- Re: [dd] starting charter text for the DELEG BOF … Paul Wouters
- Re: [dd] starting charter text for the DELEG BOF … Manu Bretelle
- Re: [dd] starting charter text for the DELEG BOF … Ben Schwartz
- Re: [dd] [Ext] starting charter text for the DELE… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [dd] [Ext] starting charter text for the DELE… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [dd] [Ext] starting charter text for the DELE… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [dd] [Ext] starting charter text for the DELE… Havard Eidnes
- Re: [dd] [Ext] starting charter text for the DELE… Jens Finkhäuser
- Re: [dd] [Ext] starting charter text for the DELE… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [dd] [Ext] starting charter text for the DELE… Jim Reid
- Re: [dd] [Ext] starting charter text for the DELE… Roy Arends
- Re: [dd] [Ext] starting charter text for the DELE… Jim Reid
- Re: [dd] [Ext] starting charter text for the DELE… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [dd] [Ext] starting charter text for the DELE… Edward Lewis
- Re: [dd] [Ext] starting charter text for the DELE… Peter Thomassen
- Re: [dd] [Ext] starting charter text for the DELE… Wes Hardaker
- Re: [dd] [Ext] starting charter text for the DELE… Dave Lawrence
- Re: [dd] [Ext] starting charter text for the DELE… George Michaelson
- Re: [dd] [Ext] starting charter text for the DELE… Geoff Huston
- Re: [dd] [Ext] starting charter text for the DELE… George Michaelson
- Re: [dd] [Ext] starting charter text for the DELE… Dave Lawrence
- Re: [dd] [Ext] starting charter text for the DELE… Edward Lewis