Re: [decade] WG Action: Conclusion of Decoupled Application Data Enroute (decade)
"Y. Richard Yang" <yry@cs.yale.edu> Thu, 27 September 2012 23:10 UTC
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Subject: Re: [decade] WG Action: Conclusion of Decoupled Application Data Enroute (decade)
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On Wednesday, September 26, 2012, Martin Stiemerling wrote: > >> 8.3 Distributed Resource Sharing Specification >> >> >> >> REQUIREMENT(S): A Provider MUST be able to indicate to its DECADE- >> compatible server, without itself contacting the server, resource >> control policies for a Consumer. The DECADE-compatible server >> MUST be able to authenticate the resource control policies. >> > > How can the provider indicate its policies to a DECADE server w/o > contacting the server? This is completely impossible! This is possible! A provider can indicate the policies in a token. Hence, the consumer contacts the server and the provider does not! > > Probably you can see from where I coming, by comparing the text in the > RATIONAL with the REQUIREMENT(S) text. While the rational gives a hint to > what is expected by this requirement, the requirement itself is not useful > at all. > > And, this requirement does still not say how this is done. I gave one example how abve. There can be other smart approaches that I may not foresee. The documents specify what but now how. > Is this done via the SDT or DRP or something else? > > Either way can work. Depend on the design. > This is an excellent example about what is wrong with the requirements > draft, I look it diferrently. This is an excellent example of giving requirements, but not limiting the design space! Richard > why it has been pushed back to the WG, and why this is one piece of the > puzzle why the DECADE was closed. > > Martin > > -- > martin.stiemerling@neclab.eu > > NEC Laboratories Europe - Network Research Division NEC Europe Limited > Registered Office: NEC House, 1 Victoria Road, London W3 6BL > Registered in England 283 >
- [decade] WG Action: Conclusion of Decoupled Appli… IESG Secretary
- Re: [decade] WG Action: Conclusion of Decoupled A… Martin Stiemerling
- Re: [decade] WG Action: Conclusion of Decoupled A… Konstantinos Pentikousis
- Re: [decade] WG Action: Conclusion of Decoupled A… Rahman, Akbar
- Re: [decade] WG Action: Conclusion of Decoupled A… Konstantinos Pentikousis
- Re: [decade] WG Action: Conclusion of Decoupled A… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [decade] WG Action: Conclusion of Decoupled A… Martin Stiemerling
- Re: [decade] WG Action: Conclusion of Decoupled A… Martin Stiemerling
- Re: [decade] WG Action: Conclusion of Decoupled A… Y. Richard Yang
- Re: [decade] WG Action: Conclusion of Decoupled A… Konstantinos Pentikousis
- Re: [decade] WG Action: Conclusion of Decoupled A… Rahman, Akbar
- Re: [decade] WG Action: Conclusion of Decoupled A… Rahman, Akbar
- Re: [decade] WG Action: Conclusion of Decoupled A… Y. Richard Yang
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- Re: [decade] WG Action: Conclusion of Decoupled A… Martin Stiemerling
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- Re: [decade] WG Action: Conclusion of Decoupled A… Y. Richard Yang
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