Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] high level questions on detnet dataplane
Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano <cjbc@it.uc3m.es> Wed, 22 February 2017 11:17 UTC
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From: Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano <cjbc@it.uc3m.es>
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Subject: Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] high level questions on detnet dataplane
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Hi Loa, On Wed, 2017-02-22 at 18:32 +0800, Loa Andersson wrote: > Folks, > > two questions, the first because I've be taling it for granted, the > second brought up bu two indenpendent people I talked about DetNet > with. > > - is a design criteria that the existing MPLS control plane protocols > shall be able to use with the DetNet dataplane? > > - I've heard the opinion (from two different directions) that doing > replication/elimination other than at the egress/ingress will make > the > solution to complicated. Do we have a good motiation why we need > it? I also have this question in mind. I've checked draft-ietf-detnet-dp- alt-00 and found this: " 4.5. #5 Flow duplication and merging [...] The solution alternative has to provide means for end systems, relay and edge nodes to be able to duplicate packets into duplicate flows, and later merge the flows into one for duplicate elimination. The duplication and merging may take place at multiple points in the network in order to ensure that one (or more) equipment failure event(s) still leave at least one path intact for a deterministic networking flow. The goal is again to enable hitless 1+1 protection in a way that no packet gets lost or there is no ramp up time when either one of the paths fails for one reason or another. " Not completely clear to me why we need to allow duplication and merging at multiple points. I have also another question: are we considering somehow the requirements that some detnet applications (e.g., crosshauling) might require bidirectional flows to be symmetric? Thanks, Carlos > > /Loa
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- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] Providing unique Flow-ID Jouni Korhonen
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- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] Providing unique Flow-ID Jouni Korhonen
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] Providing unique Flow-ID Balázs Varga A
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] Providing unique Flow-ID Loa Andersson
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] Providing unique Flow-ID Loa Andersson
- [Detnet-dp-dt] high level questions on detnet dat… Loa Andersson
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] high level questions on detnet… Lou Berger
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] high level questions on detnet… Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] high level questions on detnet… jouni.nospam
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] high level questions on detnet… Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] high level questions on detnet… jouni.nospam
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] high level questions on detnet… jouni.nospam
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] high level questions on detnet… Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] Providing unique Flow-ID Norman Finn
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] Providing unique Flow-ID Jouni Korhonen
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] high level questions on detnet… Jiangyuanlong
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] Providing unique Flow-ID Loa Andersson
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] Providing unique Flow-ID Jiangyuanlong
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] Providing unique Flow-ID Loa Andersson
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] Providing unique Flow-ID Jiangyuanlong
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] high level questions on detnet… Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano