Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] merged Tal's text into the master branch

Lou,

I guess both the question and the answer was unclear, I assumed that
when you said "address it in the future" mean "address in a future
version of the draft". My intention was version -02 or -03 of the
working group document.

My rational was the I wanted to see if we had acceptance of what we
have done so far. If we have that I believe that the QoS text is
fairly straightforward, if there are (major) changes not so easy
(would require kind of a restart).

I've one other issue that has bothered me a bit the last days, we can
address this in the wg doc.

We say that we don't define OAM, but I assume that for OAM we will use
the GACh for the OAM protocols.
What I don't get my head around is if the replication and elimination
might cause problems when using the GACh.

Anyone that has an opinion?

/Loa

On 2017-06-15 11:48, Lou Berger wrote:
> Does future= next the of draft or next rev of DetNet in your opinion?
>
> If the latter, we have a major disconnect  from the charter imo...
>
> Lou
>
>
> On June 15, 2017 5:19:43 AM Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> wrote:
>
>> Lou, et.al.,
>>
>> For me this is pretty much a "address it in the future", and guess we
>> could add text now saying "that QoS is expected to be provided by the
>> underlying network layers, specifically TE LSPs in MPLS and IP over
>> 802.1 TSN."
>>
>> /Loa
>>
>> On 2017-06-14 14:07, Lou Berger wrote:
>>> H,
>>>
>>> I just did a quick skim of the document solely from the QoS
>>> perspective.  The document seems a bit light in this area -- and leaves
>>> it to the reader to infer how DetNet QoS is provided.  What are your
>>> thoughts on this section?  (Address it in the future, haven't thought
>>> about it, etc.)
>>>
>>> I think at least saying that QoS is expected to be provided by the
>>> underlying network layers, specifically TE LSPs in MPLS and IP over
>>> 802.1 TSN.  I also think it would be appropriate to have (future)
>>> subsections that detail service delivery considerations for each.  I
>>> also expect that certain service levels of  "DetNet QoS" will require
>>> additional capabilities from traditional MPLS TE traffic flow
>>> descriptions.
>>>
>>> on a related topic, what document do you expect to contain the technical
>>> specification of "DetNet QoS"?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Lou
>>>
>>> On 6/13/2017 10:29 AM, Jouni wrote:
>>>> OK. Let's move towards the WG adoption call.
>>>>
>>>> - Jouni
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Detnet-dp-dt [mailto:detnet-dp-dt-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf
>>>>> Of Loa
>>>>> Andersson
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 16:02 PM
>>>>> To: detnet-dp-dt@ietf.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] merged Tal's text into the master branch
>>>>>
>>>>> Jouni,
>>>>>
>>>>> Does this mean that the meeting is cancelled?
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree that we should request working group adoption of the
>>>>> document now.
>>>>>
>>>>> /Loa
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2017-06-13 14:11, Jouni wrote:
>>>>>> Forgot to send a note earlier but I cannot make it today for a call.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The draft is getting into shape so unless there are bigger issues
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> the rest of the DT folks, I think we are getting to a point where DT
>>>>>> work has been done and WG could take over. I still need to do the
>>>>>> overall look over the document so let me know if there are still
>>>>>> places where you think there is more technical (not plain editorial)
>>>>> work to do.
>>>>>> - Jouni
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Jouni [mailto:jouni.nospam@gmail.com]
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 00:41 AM
>>>>>>> To: detnet-dp-dt@ietf.org
>>>>>>> Subject: merged Tal's text into the master branch
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Folks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just merged Tal's edits to the master.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Jouni
>>>>>>
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>>>>> Loa Andersson                        email: loa@mail01.huawei.com
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>> Loa Andersson                        email: loa@mail01.huawei.com
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Loa Andersson                        email: loa@mail01.huawei.com
Senior MPLS Expert                          loa@pi.nu
Huawei Technologies (consultant)     phone: +46 739 81 21 64