Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] a quick look at the replication/discarding case for detnet flows
Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> Mon, 23 January 2017 02:12 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] a quick look at the replication/discarding case
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Jouni, Sure - it should work just fine, but one more label in the stack that has to be popped at the the S-PE and T-PE. I don't know the limits of labels in the stack that need to be popped, anyone tht have "hard" information. /Loa On 2017-01-23 09:40, Jouni Korhonen wrote: > Loa, > > It is just that the solution has to work even if php does not take place. > > - JOuni > > > -- > Jouni Korhonen, Broadcom Ltd. > M: +1-408-391-7160 > >> On Jan 21, 2017, at 9:26 PM, Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> wrote: >> >> Jouni, >> >> Depends on what you mean by " not always necessarily done", php is done by default but can be turned off. I see no reason to turn it of, at >> least not if we are concerned for the depth of the label stack. >> >> /Loa >> >> On 2017-01-22 00:27, Jouni Korhonen wrote: >>> Loa, >>> >>> Ok. Thanks. I think we also need to make clear that php is not always >>> necessarily done. >>> >>> Jouni >>> >>> Sent from a smart phone.. Mind the typos.. >>> >>>> On Jan 20, 2017, at 21:25, Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> wrote: >>>> >>>> Jouni, >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 2017-01-21 10:47, Jouni Korhonen wrote: >>>>> Loa, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for the slides. The slide 9 is exactly what I was after with my e2e PW labels. Now the question: “I don’t know if there is currently enough capabilities in LDP to merge, unless we merge all traffic with the same FEC on the same outgoing outer label.” I cannot claim expertise in LDP >>>> >>>> If you have the same forwarding class and destination (part of the FEC >>>> defintion) LDP will merge. This mean that all detnet traffic from one >>>> node will arrive at D on the same (transport) LSP. I think this is fine >>>> since the label for that LDP is php'ed. >>>> to be able to have any kind of educated view here. So if we are not >>>> going to be able to merge we would “waste” additional transport label >>>> between C->D? >>>> >>>> Yes but that is a label that will be unique for a link, we are not >>>> running into problems until we start trying to use domaion wide unique >>>> labels. >>>> >>>> Duplicated would have been eliminated, thus there is no bandwidth impact. >>>> >>>> Correct! >>>> >>>> I do not think that would be an issue. It is no optimal but works. >>>> >>>> Well - I guess we could find some minor optimizations, but this wuth >>>> merging and php this is close to optimal. >>>> >>>> /Loa >>>>> >>>>> - Jouni >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Jouni Korhonen, Broadcom Ltd. >>>>> M: +1-408-391-7160 >>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 13, 2017, at 8:28 PM, Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Folks, >>>>>> >>>>>> I took a quick look at the replication / discarding case we talked about at the meeting this week. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember that so far this is not a proposal, just a demonstration >>>>>> that there is at least one way of doing it. >>>>>> >>>>>> What is there can bee revised, improved, changed or discarded if we >>>>>> find something better. Take a look a send comments. >>>>>> >>>>>> /loa >>>>>> >>>>>> Warning: I have a grave case of dyslexia, so any odd or inventive >>>>>> spelling is pure accident. >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com >>>>>> Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu >>>>>> Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 >>>>>> <detnet-replication.pptx>_______________________________________________ >>>>>> Detnet-dp-dt mailing list >>>>>> Detnet-dp-dt@ietf.org >>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/detnet-dp-dt >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com >>>> Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu >>>> Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Detnet-dp-dt mailing list >>> Detnet-dp-dt@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/detnet-dp-dt >>> >> >> -- >> >> >> Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com >> Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu >> Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 > > _______________________________________________ > Detnet-dp-dt mailing list > Detnet-dp-dt@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/detnet-dp-dt > -- Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64
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- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] a quick look at the replicatio… Jiangyuanlong
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] a quick look at the replicatio… Loa Andersson
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] a quick look at the replicatio… Jiangyuanlong
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] a quick look at the replicatio… Norman Finn
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] a quick look at the replicatio… Balázs Varga A
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] a quick look at the replicatio… Norman Finn
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] a quick look at the replicatio… Loa Andersson
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] a quick look at the replicatio… Loa Andersson
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] a quick look at the replicatio… Norman Finn
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] a quick look at the replicatio… Jouni Korhonen
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] a quick look at the replicatio… Loa Andersson
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] a quick look at the replicatio… Jouni Korhonen
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] a quick look at the replicatio… Loa Andersson
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] a quick look at the replicatio… Loa Andersson
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] a quick look at the replicatio… Jouni Korhonen
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] a quick look at the replicatio… Loa Andersson
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] a quick look at the replicatio… Loa Andersson
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] a quick look at the replicatio… Jouni Korhonen