Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] merged Tal's text into the master branch

[Balázs Varga A <[e-mail]>]

Hi Lou / All,

What about to have a dedicated document? It could focus not only on QoS, but integrating underlaying 
network and data link layers.

As a starting point we have 
- Norm's presentation in Chicago:
https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/98/slides/slides-98-detnet-ieee-tsn-and-ietf-detnet-issues-00.pdf
- Annex 2 os service model draft "Integrating Layer 3 and Layer 2 QoS" 
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-varga-detnet-service-model-02#section-13

Cheers
Bala'zs

-----Original Message-----
From: Detnet-dp-dt [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Lou Berger
Sent: 2017. június 14. 14:08
To: Jouni <[e-mail]>; [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] merged Tal's text into the master branch

H,

I just did a quick skim of the document solely from the QoS perspective.  The document seems a bit light in this area -- and leaves it to the reader to infer how DetNet QoS is provided.  What are your thoughts on this section?  (Address it in the future, haven't thought about it, etc.)

I think at least saying that QoS is expected to be provided by the underlying network layers, specifically TE LSPs in MPLS and IP over
802.1 TSN.  I also think it would be appropriate to have (future) subsections that detail service delivery considerations for each.  I also expect that certain service levels of  "DetNet QoS" will require additional capabilities from traditional MPLS TE traffic flow descriptions. 

on a related topic, what document do you expect to contain the technical specification of "DetNet QoS"?

Thanks,
Lou

On 6/13/2017 10:29 AM, Jouni wrote:
> OK. Let's move towards the WG adoption call.
>
> - Jouni
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Detnet-dp-dt [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf 
>> Of Loa Andersson
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 16:02 PM
>> To: [e-mail]
>> Subject: Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] merged Tal's text into the master branch
>>
>> Jouni,
>>
>> Does this mean that the meeting is cancelled?
>>
>> I agree that we should request working group adoption of the document now.
>>
>> /Loa
>>
>> On 2017-06-13 14:11, Jouni wrote:
>>> Forgot to send a note earlier but I cannot make it today for a call.
>>>
>>> The draft is getting into shape so unless there are bigger issues 
>>> with the rest of the DT folks, I think we are getting to a point 
>>> where DT work has been done and WG could take over. I still need to 
>>> do the overall look over the document so let me know if there are 
>>> still places where you think there is more technical (not plain 
>>> editorial)
>> work to do.
>>> - Jouni
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Jouni [mailto:[e-mail]]
>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 00:41 AM
>>>> To: [e-mail]
>>>> Subject: merged Tal's text into the master branch
>>>>
>>>> Folks,
>>>>
>>>> I just merged Tal's edits to the master.
>>>>
>>>> - Jouni
>>>
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