Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] a quick look at the replication/discarding case for detnet flows
Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> Sun, 15 January 2017 04:09 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] a quick look at the replication/discarding case
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Yuanlong, On 2017-01-14 19:45, Jiangyuanlong wrote: > Loa, > > Thank a lot for the slides, a very good start! Tnx! > Maybe we just need one layer of PW label, Currently I dob't see how this would work, can you explain plz? > while redefine the MS-PW paradigm to support DetNet data plane. This a very tricky approach, we would need to "tweak" the paradigm in a backwards compatibel way. I tend to think that if we add replication and discarding at merege point this is a big enough "tweak". > The T-PEs as defined in the PWE3 can encapsulate/de-capsulate the DetNet frames, yes - the PW paradigm allows you to add whatever encapsulation we need. and generate the sequence number. Yes the function is there to guarantee that packets are not re-ordred. > The S-PEs usually can swap the PW label or terminate the PW completely; wouldn't terminating the PW make the S-PE into a T-PE, isn't at the core of the definition of S-PE and T-PE? we can extend their operations to support replication and filtering based on the sequence number. I - think yes, that cam be done, but I don't see that filtering on the sequence number is enough, some context (e.g. label) is needed, right? > LSP FECs can work as in the traditional MPLS, yes they will, but I thought that the consensus in the meeting were that we don't want non-detnet traffic sharing the transport of detnet, right? but if any new DetNet mechanism is needed in P nodes in the future, we can also add new FECs quite conveniently. Yes it can be done, but I think we need from the start to avoid piggy- backing of non-detnet traffic. /Loa > > Thanks, > Yuanlong > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Detnet-dp-dt [mailto:detnet-dp-dt-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Loa Andersson > Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 12:29 PM > To: detnet-dp-dt@ietf.org > Subject: [Detnet-dp-dt] a quick look at the replication/discarding case for detnet flows > > Folks, > > I took a quick look at the replication / discarding case we talked about at the meeting this week. > > Please remember that so far this is not a proposal, just a demonstration that there is at least one way of doing it. > > What is there can bee revised, improved, changed or discarded if we find something better. Take a look a send comments. > > /loa > > Warning: I have a grave case of dyslexia, so any odd or inventive spelling is pure accident. > -- Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64
- [Detnet-dp-dt] a quick look at the replication/di… Loa Andersson
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] a quick look at the replicatio… Jiangyuanlong
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] a quick look at the replicatio… Loa Andersson
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] a quick look at the replicatio… Jiangyuanlong
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] a quick look at the replicatio… Norman Finn
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] a quick look at the replicatio… Balázs Varga A
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] a quick look at the replicatio… Norman Finn
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] a quick look at the replicatio… Loa Andersson
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] a quick look at the replicatio… Loa Andersson
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] a quick look at the replicatio… Norman Finn
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] a quick look at the replicatio… Jouni Korhonen
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] a quick look at the replicatio… Loa Andersson
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] a quick look at the replicatio… Jouni Korhonen
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] a quick look at the replicatio… Loa Andersson
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] a quick look at the replicatio… Loa Andersson
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] a quick look at the replicatio… Jouni Korhonen
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] a quick look at the replicatio… Loa Andersson
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] a quick look at the replicatio… Loa Andersson
- Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] a quick look at the replicatio… Jouni Korhonen