Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] a quick look at the replication/discarding case for detnet flows

Norman Finn <nfinn@alumni.caltech.edu> Tue, 17 January 2017 16:33 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] a quick look at the replication/discarding case for detnet flows
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This collapsed scenario (in 2) is the example that drove 802.1 to assume (as the typical case) that the two parts of the duplicated flow have different labels.

— Norm

> On Jan 17, 2017, at 10:26, Balázs Varga A <balazs.a.varga@ericsson.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Loa,
> 
> Two comments/discussions points for the weekly call:
> 
> 1, P nodes (recognizing detnet-flows)
> P nodes have to recognize detnet-flows in order to use the allocated resources (e.g., QoS) during the 
> forwarding of packets belonging to a given detnet-flow. We have two options: 
> (i) P nodes recognize "d-pw" label to identify the detnet-flow. This would mean that P nodes have to 
> walk through the whole label stack. And I think also that "d-pw" label value must be globally unique 
> in the network to make life simple! That can be a scalability issue ...
> (ii) We are using different LSP per detnet-flow. This would make identification more simple for P nodes
> but raises scalability issues for the LSPs.
> 
> 2, Distinguishing replica flows (required for OAM purposes)
> Let's assume that "node1 and node5" and "node2 and node6" are collapsed. I have created slide13 
> based on your slide7 (collapsed nodes denoted as node15 and node26). As a result the upper and 
> lower MS-PWs shares the first and second hop link when leaving nodeA. Node15 cannot distinguish
> the two replica flows only using the "d-pw" label. We should consider to use different "d-pw" label 
> value per "detnet-flow segment". Such a scenario is shown on slide14. Using different "d-pw" labels
> may furthermore obsolete the PW-labels ...
> 
> Cheers
> Bala'zs
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Detnet-dp-dt [mailto:detnet-dp-dt-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Loa Andersson
> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 5:29 AM
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> Subject: [Detnet-dp-dt] a quick look at the replication/discarding case for detnet flows
> 
> Folks,
> 
> I took a quick look at the replication / discarding case we talked about at the meeting this week.
> 
> Please remember that so far this is not a proposal, just a demonstration that there is at least one way of doing it.
> 
> What is there can bee revised, improved, changed or discarded if we find something better. Take a look a send comments.
> 
> /loa
> 
> Warning: I have a grave case of dyslexia, so any odd or inventive spelling is pure accident.
> -- 
> 
> 
> Loa Andersson                        email: loa@mail01.huawei.com
> Senior MPLS Expert                          loa@pi.nu
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