Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] DP DT solution draft slides for IETF99
"Korhonen, Jouni" <Jouni.Korhonen@nordicsemi.no> Fri, 14 July 2017 11:22 UTC
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From: "Korhonen, Jouni" <Jouni.Korhonen@nordicsemi.no>
To: Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net>, Jiangyuanlong <jiangyuanlong@huawei.com>, Jouni <jouni.nospam@gmail.com>, "cjbc@it.uc3m.es" <cjbc@it.uc3m.es>, 'Balázs Varga A' <balazs.a.varga@ericsson.com>, "detnet-dp-dt@ietf.org" <detnet-dp-dt@ietf.org>
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Another update. - Jouni > -----Original Message----- > From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net] > Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 13:22 PM > To: Jiangyuanlong <jiangyuanlong@huawei.com>; Jouni > <jouni.nospam@gmail.com>; cjbc@it.uc3m.es; Korhonen, Jouni > <Jouni.Korhonen@nordicsemi.no>; 'Balázs Varga A' > <balazs.a.varga@ericsson.com>; detnet-dp-dt@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] DP DT solution draft slides for IETF99 > > T-label imo. > > Lou > > > On July 14, 2017 4:26:06 AM Jiangyuanlong <jiangyuanlong@huawei.com> > wrote: > > > Sorry, I was confused by L-label in the last version and S-Label. But > > we still need to harmonize the T-Lable with the S-Label. > > For example, if we set up a low-latency or contention-free LSP for a > > detnet flow (between DA-T-PEs or DA-S-PEs), most probably we need some > > traffic engineered LSPs (i.e., L-LSP as defined in RFC 3270). > > Can we regard L-LSP labels on the path to be a T-Label or an S-Label? > > > > Best regards, > > Yuanlong > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Detnet-dp-dt [mailto:detnet-dp-dt-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > > Jiangyuanlong > > Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 3:56 PM > > To: Jouni; cjbc@it.uc3m.es; 'Korhonen, Jouni'; 'Balázs Varga A'; > > detnet-dp-dt@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] DP DT solution draft slides for IETF99 > > > > Hi folks, > > > > I am not sure we need to introduce S-Label in the first place. > > As I remember, we had some consensus that PW label has carried enough > > information in the f2f discussion happened during the last IETF meeting. > > And S-label is regarded redundant for PW. Did I miss something? > > > > Thanks, > > Yuanlong > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Detnet-dp-dt [mailto:detnet-dp-dt-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > > Jouni > > Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 1:17 PM > > To: cjbc@it.uc3m.es; 'Korhonen, Jouni'; 'Balázs Varga A'; > > detnet-dp-dt@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] DP DT solution draft slides for IETF99 > > > > Thanks. > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Detnet-dp-dt [mailto:detnet-dp-dt-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > >> Of Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano > >> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 20:39 PM > >> To: Korhonen, Jouni <Jouni.Korhonen@nordicsemi.no>; Balázs Varga A > >> <balazs.a.varga@ericsson.com>; detnet-dp-dt@ietf.org > >> Subject: Re: [Detnet-dp-dt] DP DT solution draft slides for IETF99 > >> > >> Hi Jouni, > >> > >> Thanks for preparing this. Some small comments below: > >> > >> - Slide 6: I'd remove "native" in "PW-based native DetNet" to be > >> consistent with the terms used in the draft (alternatively, I'd use > >> "IPv6- based native DetNet" in slide 7for consistency with "PW-based > >> native DetNet in slide 6). > > > > Oops. Good catch. > > > >> > >> - Slides 11 and 12: use the same order for "Flow-ID" and "SeqNum" on > >> the slides (right hand side) > > > > Ok. > > > > > >> - Slide 11: though I have no concrete proposal, I think the S-label > >> could be better introduced (maybe with a figure, also introducing the > >> (DA-)T-PE and (DA-)S-PE node terminology). > > > > Ok. I'll come up with something. > > > > > >> > >> - Slide 14: "already be seen" --> "already been seen" > > > > Ok. > > > > - Jouni > > > > > > > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Carlos > >> > >> On Thu, 2017-07-13 at 13:57 +0000, Korhonen, Jouni wrote: > >> > An update.. I am still doing the QoS etc part of the deck. > >> > > >> > > >> > - Jouni > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -----Original Message----- > >> > > From: Balázs Varga A [mailto:balazs.a.varga@ericsson.com] > >> > > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 12:54 PM > >> > > To: Korhonen, Jouni <Jouni.Korhonen@nordicsemi.no>; > >> > > detnet-dp-dt@ie tf.org > >> > > Subject: RE: DP DT solution draft slides for IETF99 > >> > > > >> > > Hi Jouni, > >> > > > >> > > Thanks for preparing this. Just some fast reactions: > >> > > - slide5-6-7: we may receive a comment that it looks like only > >> > > end- hosts having same type (TSN, MPLS, IPv6) can be > interconnected. > >> > > I would propose to add a note, that other combinations as > >> > > depicted requires further considerations. > >> > > > >> > > - slide8: we have used the MS-PW analogy during our discussions. > >> > > However > >> > > it is valid only if PREF is used. > >> > > I would propose to refer on the first bullet only to "PseudoWires" > >> > > and > >> > > "IPv6" as the two data plane solution. > >> > > A further note could highlight the MS-PW analogy for PREF > scenarios. > >> > > > >> > > - slide10-11: I would pair the DetNet flow specific information > >> > > fields to be transported with the data plane encapsulation fields. > >> > > DetNet flow Encapsulation fields > >> > > Flow ID: PW label > >> > > Seq. number: CW > >> > > > >> > > - slide14: regarding multicast DetNet flows I would formulate > >> > > somewhat different. In my view we have considered p2p data plane > >> > > solutions. > >> > > The defined data plane works for DetNet flows having multicast > >> > > dst- address assuming that the DetNet domain provides p2p > connectivity. > >> > > We may also receive comments that many DetNet flows are multicast > >> > > (e.g., TSN flows using IEEE-FRER, etc.) > >> > > > >> > > Cheers > >> > > Bala'zs > >> > > > >> > > -----Original Message----- > >> > > From: Detnet-dp-dt [mailto:detnet-dp-dt-bounces@ietf.org] On > >> > > Behalf Of Korhonen, Jouni > >> > > Sent: 2017. július 12. 23:29 > >> > > To: detnet-dp-dt@ietf.org > >> > > Subject: [Detnet-dp-dt] DP DT solution draft slides for IETF99 > >> > > > >> > > Hi, > >> > > > >> > > Sorry about this taking so long. Please, have a look and flame on.. > >> > > There's still time to work on the actual content. However, keep > >> > > in mind that this is mainly an update from last time. > >> > > > >> > > - Jouni > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Detnet-dp-dt mailing list > >> > Detnet-dp-dt@ietf.org > >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/detnet-dp-dt > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Detnet-dp-dt mailing list > >> Detnet-dp-dt@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/detnet-dp-dt > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Detnet-dp-dt mailing list > > Detnet-dp-dt@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/detnet-dp-dt > > _______________________________________________ > > Detnet-dp-dt mailing list > > Detnet-dp-dt@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/detnet-dp-dt > > _______________________________________________ > > Detnet-dp-dt mailing list > > Detnet-dp-dt@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/detnet-dp-dt >
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