Re: [Detnet] 1st stage of WG adoption poll: draft-dt-detnet-dp-sol

"Jouni" <jouni.nospam@gmail.com> Thu, 20 July 2017 13:10 UTC

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From: Jouni <jouni.nospam@gmail.com>
To: 'Norman Finn' <norman.finn@mail01.huawei.com>, 'Stewart Bryant' <stewart.bryant@gmail.com>, detnet@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [Detnet] 1st stage of WG adoption poll: draft-dt-detnet-dp-sol
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> Certainly, if you posit a different set of use cases with different
> requirements, you'll get a different answer.  That is not helpful.  Please
> read the use cases and architecture documents to better understand what is
> driving the other current drafts.  You might look at the problems
> statement, also.  I apologize for letting it lapse.

Furthermore, the data plane solution alternatives did look into & discuss
multiple choices. That gives some additional background why we ended up to
where we are now with the data plane solution proposal. Btw, the
alternatives draft, which guided the solution work, is a WG draft.

- Jouni

> 
> -- Norm
> ________________________________________
> From: detnet [detnet-bounces@ietf.org] on behalf of Stewart Bryant
> [stewart.bryant@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 4:57 AM
> To: detnet@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Detnet] 1st stage of WG adoption poll: draft-dt-detnet-dp-
> sol
> 
> I will do a detailed review a bit later, but I think we need to mark the
> IPv6 encapsulation as undecided, and I think that we need to have a
> serious discussion in the WG about the proposal to perform an intermediate
> triage of duplicate packets. Doing the triage at S-PEs adds a lot of
> complexity and posiibly a lot of silicon expense whereas a simpler
> approach that would be to do standard 1+1 or even 1+n and de-duplicate at
> the edge of the network. So I think we need to donsider that as undecided
> at this stage.
> 
> I am not sure what the scaling constraints that are proposed are, but S-PE
> can have huge numbers of PWs flowing through them.
> 
> - Stewart
> 
> 
> 
> On 20/07/2017 12:51, Loa Andersson wrote:
> > Lou,
> >
> > One thing I feel that we need to do is to look at how GACh works with
> > replication and elimination.
> >
> > The document does not specify OAM functions, but I think that the data
> > channels for OAM should be within scope of the document.
> >
> > /Loa
> >
> > On 2017-07-20 12:00, Lou Berger wrote:
> >> All,
> >>
> >> In this morning sessions we discussed a two stage adoption call for
> >> the proposed data plane solution:
> >>
> >> - in the first stage we collect issues with the -01 individual draft
> >> that WG members would like to see addressed as part of the normal WG
> >> processing of the document.  These issues will then be captured in
> >> -02 rev of the individual draft.
> >>
> >> - The second stage will be the normal WG adoption process
> >>
> >> This message initiates the first stage of adoption.  In this stage
> >> we'd like to collect technical issues to be captured in the -01 draft.
> >> Specifically, if you have an issue with the draft please:
> >>
> >> (a) if an issue with a particular section or sections, please
> >> identify the section(s) and summarize the issue to be captured in the
> >> -02 rev of the draft (your text may be copied verbatim or
> >> paraphrased/summarized), or
> >>
> >> (b) if not section specific, identify the general issue you'd like to
> >> see captured in an "open issues" section.  Again, your text may be
> >> copied verbatim, paraphrased or summarized.
> >>
> >> Please send comments in the next 3 weeks, no later than Thursday,
> >> August 10.
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >>
> >> Pat and Lou
> >>
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