Re: [Detnet] Barry Leiba's No Objection on draft-ietf-detnet-ip-over-mpls-07: (with COMMENT)

[Stewart Bryant <[e-mail]>]

Correct

However an ST that makes a normative ref to an INFO needs to call up any downref that is not in the downref registry and needs to note the downref in the abstract and in the IETF LC notice.  IETF LC thus would need to restart on this draft if we insist that it needs to be normative.

I am not entirely sure it matters that the arch is an info ref since most readers never take any notice of the reference status. The key question is whether an interoperability or mis-implementation issues will arise as a result of the reference status, and I cannot see how such problems can arise.

However if the IESG insist, I am sure that LC can be restarted and the arch text added to the downref list to avoid this problem in future.

- Stewart

> On 6 Sep 2020, at 04:28, Benjamin Kaduk <[e-mail]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Balázs,
> 
> Per
> https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/normative-informative-references/
> the informational/standards-track status of the reference is not an input
> into whether it is categorized as normative or informative.
> 
> -Ben
> 
> On Fri, Sep 04, 2020 at 02:37:49PM +0000, Balázs Varga A wrote:
>> Hi Barry,
>> 
>> Thanks for the review and the comment. Regarding:
>> - data-plane-framework draft is listed as informative
>> The data-plane-framework has an "Intended status: Informational".
>> That is the reason to have it as an informative reference.
>> 
>> I hope that clarifies your comment.
>> 
>> Thanks & Cheers
>> Bala'zs
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Barry Leiba via Datatracker <[e-mail]> 
>> Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 6:04 AM
>> To: The IESG <[e-mail]>
>> Cc: [e-mail]; [e-mail]; [e-mail]; Ethan Grossman <[e-mail]>; [e-mail]
>> Subject: Barry Leiba's No Objection on draft-ietf-detnet-ip-over-mpls-07: (with COMMENT)
>> 
>> Barry Leiba has entered the following ballot position for
>> draft-ietf-detnet-ip-over-mpls-07: No Objection
>> 
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>> 
>> Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html
>> for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions.
>> 
>> 
>> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-detnet-ip-over-mpls/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> COMMENT:
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> Just one small comment:
>> 
>>   This document uses the terminology and concepts established in the
>>   DetNet architecture [RFC8655] and
>>   [I-D.ietf-detnet-data-plane-framework], the reader is assumed to be
>>   familiar with these documents and their terminology.
>> 
>> I think this makes both of these normative, but the data-plane-framework draft is listed as informative.
>> 
>> 
>>