Re: [Detnet] Reference to an Informational RFC

John Scudder <jgs@juniper.net> Wed, 08 September 2021 17:10 UTC

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From: John Scudder <jgs@juniper.net>
To: "Black, David" <David.Black@dell.com>
CC: Don Fedyk <dfedyk@labn.net>, "detnet@ietf.org" <detnet@ietf.org>, "draft-ietf-detnet-yang@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-detnet-yang@ietf.org>, DetNet Chairs <detnet-chairs@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Detnet] Reference to an Informational RFC
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Yes, exactly as David says. If the normative reference is needed, there’s no need to shy away from it, the process is not onerous. (And we can subsequently also get 9016 onto the downref registry if it belongs there, as itsounds like it might). https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/downref/

—John

On Sep 8, 2021, at 10:57 AM, Black, David <David.Black@dell.com> wrote:



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Check with your AD – this is allowed as an exception if it is truly necessary, but attention has to be called to the exception (e.g., in the IETF Last Call announcement, if I remember correctly).

Thanks, --David

From: detnet <detnet-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Don Fedyk
Sent: Wednesday, September 8, 2021 10:39 AM
To: John Scudder; detnet@ietf.org
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Subject: [Detnet] Reference to an Informational RFC


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Hi John

While going through last call comments on draft-ietf-detnet-yang.txt  https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-detnet-yang [datatracker.ietf.org]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-detnet-yang__;!!LpKI!3snW_FEN5Y_49XLeTZS0lTspVb80pCSiv52DYRHQLrQOwsrbbLYpWK9tSapny8x0$>
Tom Petch Noted, among his many comments,
“It is unfortunate that RFC9016 is Informational - it needs to be a Normative Reference IMO; your AD is probably familiar with this problem as it occurred as recently as last month and will doubtless occur many times again. “

What is the course of action for us?

Thanks
Don & Authors