Re: [Detnet] Robert Wilton's Discuss on draft-ietf-detnet-mpls-11: (with DISCUSS)
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From: "Rob Wilton (rwilton)" <rwilton@cisco.com>
To: Balázs Varga A <balazs.a.varga@ericsson.com>, Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com>
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Thread-Topic: Robert Wilton's Discuss on draft-ietf-detnet-mpls-11: (with DISCUSS)
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Subject: Re: [Detnet] Robert Wilton's Discuss on draft-ietf-detnet-mpls-11: (with DISCUSS)
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Hi Balazs, Stewart, Thanks for the quick responses. Understood that the transmitter can start with any value. But probably it would be helpful to add a sentence to explicitly state this? Regards, Rob > -----Original Message----- > From: Balázs Varga A <balazs.a.varga@ericsson.com> > Sent: 10 September 2020 11:55 > To: Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com>; Rob Wilton (rwilton) > <rwilton@cisco.com> > Cc: The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>; draft-ietf-detnet-mpls@ietf.org; DetNet > Chairs <detnet-chairs@ietf.org>; DetNet WG <detnet@ietf.org>; Ethan > Grossman <eagros@dolby.com> > Subject: RE: Robert Wilton's Discuss on draft-ietf-detnet-mpls-11: (with > DISCUSS) > > Hi, exactly. No need to define initial value. Cheers Bala'zs > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 12:35 PM > To: Robert Wilton <rwilton@cisco.com> > Cc: Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com>; The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>; > draft-ietf-detnet-mpls@ietf.org; DetNet Chairs <detnet-chairs@ietf.org>; > DetNet WG <detnet@ietf.org>; Ethan Grossman <eagros@dolby.com> > Subject: Re: Robert Wilton's Discuss on draft-ietf-detnet-mpls-11: (with > DISCUSS) > > Hi Rob, > > I don’t think so. > > Since the protocol is one way and the receiver needs to recover following > an outage, by definitition it can cope without an expected start value, > which means that the transmitter can start with any value it wants. > > Best regards > > Stewart > > > > On 10 Sep 2020, at 11:06, Robert Wilton via Datatracker > <noreply@ietf.org> wrote: > > > > Robert Wilton has entered the following ballot position for > > draft-ietf-detnet-mpls-11: Discuss > > > > When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all > > email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut > > this introductory paragraph, however.) > > > > > > Please refer to > > https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html > > for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. > > > > > > The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-detnet-mpls/ > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > DISCUSS: > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Hi, > > > > Thank you for this document. > > > > Hopefully a trivial discuss to resolve ... > > > > 4.2.1. DetNet Control Word and the DetNet Sequence Number > > > > Does this section need to specify the initial value for the sequence > number for a new flow? > > > > Regards, > > Rob > > > > > > > > > >
- [Detnet] Robert Wilton's Discuss on draft-ietf-de… Robert Wilton via Datatracker
- Re: [Detnet] Robert Wilton's Discuss on draft-iet… Balázs Varga A
- Re: [Detnet] Robert Wilton's Discuss on draft-iet… Stewart Bryant
- Re: [Detnet] Robert Wilton's Discuss on draft-iet… Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- Re: [Detnet] Robert Wilton's Discuss on draft-iet… Balázs Varga A
- Re: [Detnet] Robert Wilton's Discuss on draft-iet… Rob Wilton (rwilton)