Re: [Detnet] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-ietf-detnet-security-13: (with COMMENT)

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From: "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com>
To: "ethan@ieee.org" <ethan@ieee.org>, "'Alissa Cooper'" <alissa@cooperw.in>, "'The IESG'" <iesg@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Detnet] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-ietf-detnet-security-13: (with COMMENT)
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Ethan, WG,

I would not mind removing the part 2 (mining, blockchain, network slicing) of the figure 2: there is no context given in the document.

Regards

-éric

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Date: Saturday, 9 January 2021 at 01:37
To: Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in>in>, 'The IESG' <iesg@ietf.org>
Cc: "detnet@ietf.org" <detnet@ietf.org>rg>, "draft-ietf-detnet-security@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-detnet-security@ietf.org>rg>, 'Lou Berger' <lberger@labn.net>et>, "detnet-chairs@ietf.org" <detnet-chairs@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-ietf-detnet-security-13: (with COMMENT)

    Hello Alissa (and WG - one open question below),
    Thank you for your comment. Regarding the table (figure 2 in section 6) we can certainly remove the blockchain and slicing columns. Regarding the utility of the whole table, this table was a contribution from a security industry professional, and I personally don't know the broad industry literature well enough to determine whether this form of table is of use to our readership, which is presumably security professionals, although perhaps this table is more oriented toward the business side than the technical side. 

    At this point I don't see any other review comments suggesting that the whole table be removed. I note your language in the comment "at a minimum" so I take this to mean that you don't feel strongly about removing the whole table. 

    So this table is close to being voted off the island, but it hasn't happened yet;  if anyone else wants to see it dropped, please speak up, otherwise it stays. 

    Sincerely,
    Ethan (as Editor, DetNet Security draft)

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    Subject: Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-ietf-detnet-security-13: (with COMMENT)

    Alissa Cooper has entered the following ballot position for
    draft-ietf-detnet-security-13: No Objection

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    I did not have time to review this document in detail but I looked at the Gen-ART review and it seems that most of the points have been addressed, thanks. I agree with other ADs that the tables in Section 6 do not make much sense or add much value. At a minimum the block chain and networking slicing columns should be removed as they are provided with no explanation and do not seem to belong with the other columns.