Re: DHCPINFORM _vs_ INIT-REBOOT
Charles Ragan <ragan@ins.com> Fri, 18 October 1996 03:23 UTC
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Subject: Re: DHCPINFORM _vs_ INIT-REBOOT
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Hello Don, Actually, I can think of a couple of reasons to at least leave the automatic DHCPDISCOVER as an option. Although I'm not an Apple user ;-( - it sure would be nice to have the option for mobile users in the win95 stack. (i.e. I have one dhcp lan connection @ work, and another at my house....I have no control over the lease periods @ work, so I have to run winipcfg and release the address, and restart win95 to attain a new one at home area network (han) ;-) Just thinking out loud. Charles At 06:18 PM 10/17/96 -0400, Don Coolidge wrote: >I'm responsible for the DHCP client software in Apple's MacOS Open >Transport (OT) networking architecture. I've been bringing it up to a more >current state with respect to RFCs and drafts, and I have a few questions >on which I need advice. > >The current OT DHCP client design, while (as far as I can tell) fairly >compliant with existing RFCs, nevertheless differs in many ways from most >other DHCP client implementations. For instance, in order to avoid making >assumptions about network management, it was implemented so as to be >constantly naive: it comes up each time totally without state, starting >with a DHCPDISCOVER message; it accepts the first DHCPOFFER it receives, >regardless of the configuration parameters; and it sends a DHCPRELEASE >whenever the stack is torn down. This is a bit more complicated than on >many other vendors' boxes because the networking stack is torn down and >replumbed not only across reboots; the stack is also torn down if no client >streams have been open for two minutes' time, and it is re-plumbed when the >next stream is opened (picture a Mac runing only Eudora, polling for email >every five minutes). > >This is all kosher DHCP client behavior (why, after all, should the Mac >care about its IP address? -- though a network administrator certainly >may), and yet since Apple (finally!) began giving me time to participate in >the IETF, I've found that in each of these aspects it differs from almost >every other industry implementation of a DHCP client. > >So, among the changes I'm working on for the next major release of Open >Transport (1.5) are the following: > >1) Add support for the Client ID option. > >2) Don't send a DHCPRELEASE unless the lease times out without being >renewed or rebound, or the user explicitly releases the lease. > >3) Maintain state across reboots and/or protocol stack teardown/replumbing. > >4) Provide a programmatic interface that will allow users/applications to >retrieve all of the parameters and options configured by the DHCP server, >even those options that are not themselves used by Open Transport (e.g. >various flavors of server addresses). > >The problem comes with number 3). When configuring, should I go into >INIT-REBOOT state if the previous lease is unexpired, or should I issue a >DHCPINFORM message? I can see advantages and disadvantages of each. > >First, DHCPINFORM is not yet part of an RFC; it's still in draft. Because >of that, it is probably supported by fewer server implementations. >Nevertheless, it has the advantage of allowing a client to reconfigure even >if the server is down. > >Second, INIT-REBOOT state is an approved RFC practice for DHCP clients. It >is undoubtedly supported by many more DHCP servers than support DHCPINFORM. >However, it provides no way for a client to successfully configure if all >relevant servers are down and nobody answers. > >My incliniation is to support DHCPINFORM rather than INIT-REBOOT - I'd >rather be ahead of the standards curve than continually behind. In >addition, given that most clients maintain state across reboots, including >the time of their lease's expiration, DHCPINFORM seems the more correct >thing to do. But it's not yet a standard. > >So, the questions: > >a) How long is it anticipated it will take for DHCPINFORM to make it to RFC >status? > >b) Have any client implementors Out There run into server incompatibility >situations with either of these choices? > >c) Which should I implement? :^) > >d) Last, as a philosophical matter, why was DHCPINFORM invented, when >simply changing the specified behavior of the INIT-REBOOT state could have >achieved the same end? Just curious... > >Thanks in advance for your comments. And if these questions have been >previously dealt with on this mailing list, could somebody point me at the >archive? > >See you in San Jose... > >-- Don Coolidge >dfc@apple.com > > > > Charles_Ragan@ins.com Sr. Network Systems Consultant International Network Services CCIE, CBE, MCSE, MCNE
- DHCPINFORM _vs_ INIT-REBOOT Don Coolidge
- Re: DHCPINFORM _vs_ INIT-REBOOT Charles Ragan
- Re: DHCPINFORM _vs_ INIT-REBOOT Shawn Mamros
- Re: DHCPINFORM _vs_ INIT-REBOOT Shawn Mamros