Re: NT 3.51 dhcp client and server ip address
Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Wed, 04 December 1996 21:14 UTC
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From: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
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Subject: Re: NT 3.51 dhcp client and server ip address
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> * Fixing will delay the advancement to Draft Standard, as it would > represent a fairly basic change to the behavior of clients and > servers. > * Leaving it leaves the problem with multiple identifiers for a single > server - as pointed out by Ted - unfixed. I think it's too late at this point to undo the overloading. There are far too many dhcp clients out there which believe that the server identifier is the address to which they should unicast DHCPREQUEST messages. Are you saying that adding language to make explicit the currently implicit overloading of the server identifier option will delay the advancement to Draft Standard, or are you saying that undoing the overloading will delay it? If the latter, and if we can add the clarification without introducing a major delay, I think it's worth doing. When I read the protocol specification, I completely missed the implicit overloading, so I would like to believe that it's not obvious. :') I guess one question is, how do we want to fix this? My first take on a clarification which has minimal implementation implications is: If the DHCP Server and the DHCP Client are connected to the same subnet, the Server Identifier SHOULD be the IP address the server is using for communication on that subnet. If the server is using multiple IP addresses on that subnet, any such address may be used. The Server Identifier MUST be an IP address to which the client may unicast a TCP packet using routing information it has obtained using the DHCP routers option. DHCP Clients MUST use the IP address provided in the Server Identifier option for any unicast requests to the DHCP Server. This avoids *requiring* that the Server Identifier be the most directly reachable IP address belonging to the server, while suggesting that it should be, which means that existing implementations that do not do this are not non-conforming except when run incompletely-connected networks. I don't see any way to avoid requiring the DHCP Client to use the Server Identifier for unicasts - as several people have pointed out, using the IP source address won't work in the case that the request has come through a BOOTP relay agent. _MelloN_
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- Re: NT 3.51 dhcp client and server ip address Tim Rowe
- Re: NT 3.51 dhcp client and server ip address Ted Lemon
- Re: NT 3.51 dhcp client and server ip address Ken Key
- Re: NT 3.51 dhcp client and server ip address Ted Lemon
- Re: NT 3.51 dhcp client and server ip address Shawn Mamros
- Re: NT 3.51 dhcp client and server ip address Matt Crawford
- Re: NT 3.51 dhcp client and server ip address Shawn Mamros
- Re: NT 3.51 dhcp client and server ip address Ken Key
- Re: NT 3.51 dhcp client and server ip address Ted Lemon
- Re: NT 3.51 dhcp client and server ip address Ralph Droms
- Re: NT 3.51 dhcp client and server ip address Don Coolidge
- Re: NT 3.51 dhcp client and server ip address Mike Carney - SunSoft Internet Engineering
- Re: NT 3.51 dhcp client and server ip address Ted Lemon
- Re: NT 3.51 dhcp client and server ip address Kim Kinnear
- RE: NT 3.51 dhcp client and server ip address Pratik Gupta
- RE: NT 3.51 dhcp client and server ip address Pratik Gupta
- Re: NT 3.51 dhcp client and server ip address Shawn Mamros
- Re: NT 3.51 dhcp client and server ip address Shawn Mamros
- Re: NT 3.51 dhcp client and server ip address Ken Key
- Re: NT 3.51 dhcp client and server ip address Ted Lemon
- Re: NT 3.51 dhcp client and server ip address Ted Lemon
- Re: NT 3.51 dhcp client and server ip address David Lapp
- Re: NT 3.51 dhcp client and server ip address Ken Key
- Re: NT 3.51 dhcp client and server ip address John M. Wobus
- Re: NT 3.51 dhcp client and server ip address Shawn Mamros
- Re: NT 3.51 dhcp client and server ip address Ted Lemon
- Re: NT 3.51 dhcp client and server ip address Ralph Droms
- Re: NT 3.51 dhcp client and server ip address David Lapp
- Re: NT 3.51 dhcp client and server ip address Ted Lemon