Re: [Dhcpv6bis] Authors on draft-ietf-dhc-rfc3315bis

Okay, thanks!

On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 10:15 PM, Suresh Krishnan <Suresh@kaloom.com> wrote:

> Hi Ted,
>   And I do plan to progress with the author list as is, but I wanted to
> give Bernie a heads up in case the draft encounters resistance in the IESG.
> Some of the IESG members are working on a statement concerning number of
> authors and if it does get formalized before this document hits the IESG,
> it is going to make my job much much harder. I will keep you all updated on
> how things go.
>
> Thanks
> Suresh
>
> On Aug 30, 2017, at 9:13 AM, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote:
>
> As you know, I think that this isn't appropriate.   Of course, I also
> happen to be the person with the lowest number of commits, but I believe I
> have offered some fairly substantial contribution, particularly early in
> the process.   I've done more commenting than direct editing; I believe
> that is a relevant contribution.   I don't know who we'd vote off the
> island, and that's really what we're being asked to do.   This is not a
> situation where the list of authors has been padded with do-nothing
> authors: rather, it's a situation where there was a ton of work to do, and
> a lot of people contributed meaningfully.
>
> I would respectfully ask that Suresh push back on this request in this
> case.   I realize that it's stylistically bad, but this is an unusual
> document—it's a merge of several previous documents, and that merge was a
> lot of work, more so than is reflected by the current page count.
>
> On Aug 30, 2017, at 8:34 AM, Bernie Volz (volz) <volz@cisco.com> wrote:
>
> Hi:
>
> Suresh (cc’d) indicated that we should look to reduce the authors at the
> “top” of the document as the IESG is pushing for limiting this to 5. We
> currently have 8 authors.
>
> While it is only ONE measure of contribution, the following link provides
> the GITHUB commits by person:
>
> https://github.com/dhcwg/rfc3315bis/graphs/contributors
>
> Other contributions which this does not show are involvement in
> discussions (either in our jitsu or face-to-face (@ IETF) meetings). And,
> in reviewing and editing some of the text (such as in google docs).
>
> In the co-authors call today (Ted, Tim, and I), we discussed this. Ted
> feels it is worth pushing back on this as everyone has contributed – it
> isn’t like we had “fake” authors that just pushed to have their name on the
> document.
>
> Certainly, there are a few people that have contributed less over time,
> but that doesn’t diminish their earlier contributions.
>
> So, what should we do?
>
>
>    1. If there’s anyone on the authors list that is OK with being removed
>    from the initial list of authors (you’d still be in the authors list in the
>    end), let me know.
>    2. If anyone has any thoughts on this topic, please comment.
>
>
>
>    - Bernie
>
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