Re: [Dhcwg] Re: Change to 'seconds' field in DHCP message header
Ted Lemon <mellon@nominum.com> Tue, 28 August 2001 00:54 UTC
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To: Ralph Droms <rdroms@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [Dhcwg] Re: Change to 'seconds' field in DHCP message header
In-Reply-To: Message from Ralph Droms <rdroms@cisco.com> of "Mon, 27 Aug 2001 09:11:35 EDT." <4.3.2.7.2.20010827091121.00b648b0@funnel.cisco.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:35:23 -0400
From: Ted Lemon <mellon@nominum.com>
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> Can anyone give us the benefit of experience with the 'secs' field > in DHCPv4? There hasn't been any interest in defining a new option > with greater range or precision than the current 0-255 seconds > measured in seconds. Has the range or precision in DHCPv4 been > inadequate in any specific instance? A millisecond is a thousandth of a second. So the range with 16 bits is 65.536 seconds, not 655.36 seconds as Bernie said. I think this is too short to represent a reasonable set of cases. There may be devices, e.g. low power scientific devices that might want to probe the network from time to time, but can't afford the power cost of probing it frequently, where the desirable retry interval may be much longer than that. I do not know of any such devices that are in use right now, but it seems plausible to me that someone might want to deploy one, and I would like to account for that possibility. > Another alternative for greater range would be to define the units > of the data value to be tenths of a second. My intuition is that > tenths of a second should be sufficiently precise... I think it's good to have better granularity than that. We specify the retry timeout in milliseconds, so the retry interval should also be computed in milliseconds. This is an option that will only be present in exceptional cases, and we are discussing a difference in space consumption of 33%. I am all in favor of saving space in frequently-transmitted packets, but this is not much space, and will not be in the most frequently-transmitted packets. I may be wrong that we need this extra breathing room, but the cost is low, and I'd really appreciate it if we could stop arguing about this and just take the risk that we might be being a little bit generous in our allocation of bits. _MelloN_ _______________________________________________ dhcwg mailing list dhcwg@ietf.org http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dhcwg
- [Dhcwg] Re: Change to 'seconds' field in DHCP mes… Ralph Droms
- RE: [Dhcwg] Re: Change to 'seconds' field in DHCP… Bernie Volz (EUD)
- [dhcwg] RE: Change to 'seconds' field in DHCP mes… Ralph Droms
- Re: [Dhcwg] Re: Change to 'seconds' field in DHCP… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Dhcwg] Re: Change to 'seconds' field in DHCP… Ralph Droms
- Re: [Dhcwg] Re: Change to 'seconds' field in DHCP… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Dhcwg] Re: Change to 'seconds' field in DHCP… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Dhcwg] Re: Change to 'seconds' field in DHCP… Ralph Droms
- Re: [Dhcwg] Re: Change to 'seconds' field in DHCP… Ralph Droms
- Re: [Dhcwg] Re: Change to 'seconds' field in DHCP… Ted Lemon
- [dhcwg] Changes to remove "client-link-local-addr… Ralph Droms
- Re: [dhcwg] Changes to remove "client-link-local-… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] Changes to remove "client-link-local-… Ralph Droms
- Re: [dhcwg] Changes to remove "client-link-local-… Ted Lemon
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