[dhcwg] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-dhc-relay-port-08: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com> Wed, 29 November 2017 21:08 UTC
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Subject: [dhcwg] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-dhc-relay-port-08: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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Ben Campbell has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-dhc-relay-port-08: Discuss When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dhc-relay-port/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- DISCUSS: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (I want to "discuss" the following DISCUSS point. If the answer is that this is by design, and the working group thinks that the operational aspects are reasonable, then I will clear.) This extension places normative requirements on any upstream server or relay, which may or may not implement this spec. It further appears that if you try to use this extension without that support, things will break. That seems to require at least an update to the DCHP and DCHPv6 RFCs[1], and some method of discovery or fallback would be helpful. Section 5.4 discusses this a little bit, but I think it needs to talk about what to do when things fail. "Turn off the feature if you don't get DHCP responses" doesn't seem satisfying. [1] I see 3.1 and 3.2 make changes to 2131 and 3315, so it seems an "UPDATES... " tag is needed one way or another. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -1, last paragraph: It seems like the 2119 keywords here would be better placed in the later sections about relay and server behavior. I suggest moving them there, and making the introductory language non-normative. - 3.1 and 3.2: I am surprised not to see 2119 keywords in the language added to 2131 and 3315: -8: This spec adds the ability to direct dhcp responses to non-standard ports. If the working group believes that does not affect the security considerations, please describe the rational. (I'm not saying that I think there's a problem, but I think the burden is on the working group to explain why they think there is not.)
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- Re: [dhcwg] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-… Ted Lemon
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