RE: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-packetcable-04.txt
"Woundy, Richard" <Richard_Woundy@cable.comcast.com> Fri, 20 December 2002 23:44 UTC
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From: "Woundy, Richard" <Richard_Woundy@cable.comcast.com>
To: 'Thomas Narten' <narten@us.ibm.com>, Paul Duffy <paduffy@cisco.com>
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Subject: RE: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-packetcable-04.txt
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 16:42:39 -0700
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Thomas, >[Have] you had a chance to look at >draft-narten-iana-experimental-allocations-02.txt? Does this address >any of your concerns? (Or do I still not really understand the >concerns behind this?) It seems that your draft's use of experimental numbers is pretty restrictive. For example, it would allow Paul Duffy to conduct an experiment in his all-Cisco lab, but it doesn't seem that CableLabs could conduct a cross-vendor experiment even in their own lab (forget about any field trials). Quite frankly, I think Paul could just as easily steal a DHCP option code in the 128-254 space for such experimentation. I draw this conclusion from the following paragraphs in your draft, especially the second paragraph: An alternate approach, and the one recommended in this document, is to assign a range of numbers specifically earmarked for testing and experimentation purposes. Mutually consenting devices could use these numbers for whatever purposes they desire, but under the understanding that they are reserved for generic testing purposes, and other implementations may use the same numbers for different experimental uses... From the above, it follows that it would be inappropriate for a group of vendors, a consortia, or another Standards Development Organization to agree amongst themselves to use a particular value for a specific purpose. By definition, experimental numbers are not guaranteed to be unique in any environment other than one where the the local system administrator has chosen to use a particular number for a particular purpose and can ensure that a particular value is not already in use for some other purpose. This comment from the draft could be especially tricky for a headless PacketCable brick: "anyone making use of an experimental number should require the user or customer to explicitly configure the value prior to enabling its usage". -- Rich P.S. Side comment about the draft: is there a reason why there are two different reference numbering schemes (RFC number versus descriptive name) for the two references? [RFC2780] IANA Allocation Guidelines For Values In the Internet Protocol and Related Headers. S. Bradner, V. Paxson. March 2000, RFC 2780. [IANA-CONSIDERATIONS] Guidelines for Writing an IANA Considerations Section in RFCs. T. Narten, H. Alvestrand. October 1998. RFC 2434. _______________________________________________ dhcwg mailing list dhcwg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dhcwg
- RE: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-packetcable-04.txt Woundy, Richard
- RE: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-packetcable-04.txt Woundy, Richard
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-packetcable-04.txt Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-packetcable-04.txt Thomas Narten
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-packetcable-04.txt Thomas Narten
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-packetcable-04.txt Ralph Droms
- RE: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-packetcable-04.txt Woundy, Richard
- RE: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-packetcable-04.txt Woundy, Richard
- RE: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-packetcable-04.txt Woundy, Richard
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-packetcable-04.txt Ted Lemon
- RE: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-packetcable-04.txt Woundy, Richard
- RE: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-packetcable-04.txt Jean-Francois Mule
- RE: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-packetcable-04.txt Jean-Francois Mule
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-narten-iana-experimental-alloca… Thomas Narten