Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Options for Network-Assisted Multipath TCP (MPTCP)
<mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> Thu, 12 November 2015 15:09 UTC
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From: mohamed.boucadair@orange.com
To: Simon Hobson <linux@thehobsons.co.uk>, "multipathtcp@ietf.org" <multipathtcp@ietf.org>, "dhcwg@ietf.org" <dhcwg@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Options for Network-Assisted Multipath TCP (MPTCP)
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Re-, The change you asked for is as follows: ============== OLD: The DHCP server MUST NOT reply with the DHCP MPTCP Concentrator option unless the client has explicitly requested for it. NEW: The DHCP server SHOULD NOT reply with the DHCP MPTCP Concentrator option unless the client has explicitly requested for it. ============== Comments from the wg about this change is welcome. Cheers, Med > -----Message d'origine----- > De : dhcwg [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Simon Hobson > Envoyé : jeudi 12 novembre 2015 15:24 > À : multipathtcp@ietf.org; dhcwg@ietf.org > Objet : Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Options for Network-Assisted Multipath TCP > (MPTCP) > > mohamed.boucadair@orange.com wrote: > > > The proposed text was to explicitly show to Simon the complexity induced > by the request to handle broken implementations. > > Which IMO you failed to do. > > If a client receives an option that it doesn't know what to do with - it > is already required to ignore it. As Bernie points out, you do not need to > specify that as that's already "standard requirement" for all options. > You also don't need to specify that the client must request it - that too > is standard requirement. > > The suggestion was simply that you change one instance of "must not" to > "should not". > In the ideal world, no client would ever want an option but not request it > - "should not" is sufficient instruction for a normal server, serving a > normal client, with nothing broken, to not send the option if not > requested. > > But in the non-ideal world, sometimes the admin needs to override the > strictly correct operation so as to deal with something that isn't > completely ideal. Stating "must not" precludes the admin from working > around a problem, and technically means an implementation must prevent him > from trying*. In the real world there are broken things we can't fix - > only work around the broken bits. > > You don't need to specify any mechanism for that, you don't even need to > reference the possibility - just don't prohibit it. So the sole change > required is to change "must" to "should" in one place. > > * If the server "must not" send an option the client didn't ask for, then > strictly speaking, an implementation "must not" have a means for the admin > to override that parameter list. > > _______________________________________________ > dhcwg mailing list > dhcwg@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dhcwg
- [dhcwg] DHCP Options for Network-Assisted Multipa… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Options for Network-Assisted Mul… Dan Seibel
- Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Options for Network-Assisted Mul… Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Options for Network-Assisted Mul… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Options for Network-Assisted Mul… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Options for Network-Assisted Mul… Niall O'Reilly
- Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Options for Network-Assisted Mul… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Options for Network-Assisted Mul… Simon Hobson
- Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Options for Network-Assisted Mul… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Options for Network-Assisted Mul… Niall O'Reilly
- Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Options for Network-Assisted Mul… Simon Hobson
- Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Options for Network-Assisted Mul… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Options for Network-Assisted Mul… Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Options for Network-Assisted Mul… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Options for Network-Assisted Mul… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Options for Network-Assisted Mul… Simon Hobson
- Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Options for Network-Assisted Mul… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Options for Network-Assisted Mul… Niall O'Reilly
- Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Options for Network-Assisted Mul… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Options for Network-Assisted Mul… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Options for Network-Assisted Mul… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Options for Network-Assisted Mul… Ted Lemon