Re: [dhcwg] Kathleen Moriarty's No Objection on draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-failover-protocol-04: (with COMMENT)

kkinnear <> Tue, 31 January 2017 21:46 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dhcwg] Kathleen Moriarty's No Objection on draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-failover-protocol-04: (with COMMENT)
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Thanks for your comments.  My responses are indented below.

> On Jan 31, 2017, at 2:14 PM, Kathleen Moriarty <> wrote:
> Kathleen Moriarty has entered the following ballot position for
> draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-failover-protocol-04: No Objection
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> I have 2 questions that I would like to chat about and should be easy
> enough to resolve.
> 1. I know we've discussed in the past why there is no MUST for TLS and it
> having to do with DHCPv6 use on private networks or isolated.  Is there
> text in one of the more recent RFCs that covers this explanation that can
> be cited?  I'd like to make sure that's enough too.

	To the best of my knowledge the justifications for both a secure
	and an insecure mode have been kept out of the RFC's themselves,
	and are scattered over a variety of issues raised for different
	drafts.  A pretty succinct summary came from you for the DHCPv4
	Active Leasequery draft (the bottom of this page): <>

	I can go back to the email surrounding the DHCPv6 Active Leasequery
	draft and try to pull that together into something longer, but
	essentially it is going to say pretty much what you have summarized
	at the above URL.
> 2. The Security Considerations section says not to use Authentication
> from RFC3316.  SHould authentication instead be done within TLS or how
> will the session be authenticated.  Did I miss something?  I'm not
> finding the term authentication elsewhere in the draft and can infer
> things, but wanted to make sure since nothing is stated explicitly.

	Interesting point.  Yes, if you care about authentication you
	should use TLS.  And the discussion on authentication in TLS
	is in Section 9.1 of the DHCPv6 Active Leasequery draft, RFC
	7653.  That section is not otherwise referenced here in the
	failover draft.  I will add the following to the end of the
	Security Considerations section, immediately after:

>>    Authentication for DHCPv6 messages [RFC3315 <>] MUST NOT be used to
>>    attempt to secure transmission of the messages described in this
>>    document.

	"If authentication is desired, TLS SHOULD be employed
	as described in Sections 8.2 and 9.1 of [RFC7653] <>."

	Thanks for catching this!

	Regards -- Kim