Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-client-link-layer-addr-opt-00.txt
Simon Hobson <linux@thehobsons.co.uk> Thu, 12 July 2012 14:00 UTC
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Subject: Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-client-link-layer-addr-opt-00.txt
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perl-list wrote: >>Okay, consider prefix-delegation, for example. ... >What you say in theory is interesting and could pose a problem. In >practice, however, it seems that prefix delegation and WAN >configuration happen simultaneously in the same exchange within the >same packet. Also, as this draft is intended to >help correlation between DHCPv4 and DHCPv6 using the (hardware / >link layer / MAC - whatever we are calling it these days) address, >your argument about downstream interfaces that would not be known in >DHCPv4 space is irrelevant. I agree, and what's more I can't really see how it's an upstream server's job to configure downstream interfaces on a router. In the general case where PD is likely, it's going to be an ISP delivering a prefix to a customer's router - what the customer wants to do with that isn't really anything to do with the ISP. All the ISP needs to do is a) configure the customer's WAN, and b) provide them with a PD. While I could see some situations where going further might be useful, I could only see it working in a managed environment (eg ISP supplied routers, I'm thinking something similar to ISP supplied cable modems). I'd see that sort of situation managed by 'private' extensions/options which could be agreed between the client and server - possibly as an industry segment standard vendor option space. I'm inclined to agree with Ted - keep it simple so it can actually get passed ! -- Simon Hobson Visit http://www.magpiesnestpublishing.co.uk/ for books by acclaimed author Gladys Hobson. Novels - poetry - short stories - ideal as Christmas stocking fillers. Some available as e-books.
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- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Andre Kostur
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Andre Kostur
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… A. Gregory Rabil
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… A. Gregory Rabil
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Andre Kostur
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… A. Gregory Rabil
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Andre Kostur
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… A. Gregory Rabil
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Marc Perea
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… A. Gregory Rabil
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Simon Hobson
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… A. Gregory Rabil
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… A. Gregory Rabil
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Andre Kostur
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Andre Kostur
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Gaurav Halwasia (ghalwasi)
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… perl-list
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Simon Hobson
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Andre Kostur
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… perl-list
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Andre Kostur
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… perl-list
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Marc Perea
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Andre Kostur
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Eustace, Glen
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action:draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-clie… Marc Perea
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… A. Gregory Rabil
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action:draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-clie… perl-list
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… perl-list
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- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Eustace, Glen
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… perl-list
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Tim Chown
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Eustace, Glen
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Hans Liu