Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-v6only-08.txt
Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> Mon, 17 August 2020 15:42 UTC
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Subject: Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-v6only-08.txt
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Also, I wanted to say. I think you will disagree with my terminology proposals and that's fine. I will not argue any further. We all work towards progressing towards deployment of IPv6 and this draft and its potential implementation is a step forward. I think the problem here is a much wider terminology problem. Starting simply with 'IPv6', some people understand it as a service, others as a stack of layers, others as a deployment strategy, others simply as SLAAC, others as the other version of IP, and so on. It's then hard to agree about its '-only' variation. I have first noticed that divergence in the long argumentations in v6ops WG about 'IPv6-only' and the billions of devices. And I dont think I can understand, and even less to speak like others speak, when I think 'IPv6-only'. So I will leave it there. Alex Le 17/08/2020 à 17:31, Alexandre Petrescu a écrit : > > > Le 17/08/2020 à 14:48, Lorenzo Colitti a écrit : >> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 9:40 PM Alexandre Petrescu >> <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com >> <mailto:alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> IPv6-only mode: a mode of operation of a computer whose IPv4 stack >> has been removed from the running space and where IPv6 stack is >> active. >> >> >> The definition you propose will not work for this document for at >> least the following two reasons: >> >> * A host that is IPv6-only by your proposed definition cannot >> implement DHCPv4, because DHCPv4 requires sending and receiving >> IPv4 packets. > > I agree. > >> * In section 3 draft explains that the client can decide that only >> certain interfaces are IPv6-only. This means it could be using >> IPv4 on other interfaces, and it would not meet your proposed >> definition. > > I agree with this as well. Turning IPv4 off on some interface might > still leave it on on another interface. In my tests I make sure the > only interface working has IPv4 disabled and IPv6 enabled. > > Still, maybe it's just me. > > The definition might promiss the term 'IPv6-only' for something it > does not really satisfy. > > If I order a Vanilla-only ice cream I will refuse the slightest trace > of chocolate. > > If it is 'IPv6-only' then there is no IPv4 address on any interface, > and the whole IPv4 stack is removed. > > What the draft calls 'IPv6-only' is something heading towards true > IPv6-only (more than dual stack) but still not reaching it. It is > 'almost IPv6-only'. > > So, maybe the term 'IPv6-only' is not appropriate. Maybe 'almost > IPv6-only' is better(?) > > Alex > >> >> Cheers, Lorenzo >> > > _______________________________________________ dhcwg mailing list > dhcwg@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dhcwg
- [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-v6only-08.txt internet-drafts
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-v6only-08.… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-v6only-08.… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-v6only-08.… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-v6only-08.… Alexandre Petrescu