[dhcwg] Re: Unit of Measurement...?
"James M. Polk" <jmpolk@cisco.com> Wed, 09 July 2003 19:44 UTC
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Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 14:42:42 -0500
To: Henning Schulzrinne <hgs@cs.columbia.edu>
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Subject: [dhcwg] Re: Unit of Measurement...?
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At 01:39 PM 7/9/2003 -0400, Henning Schulzrinne wrote: >James M. Polk wrote: > > >I gather the datum for long/lat does not uniquely define the datum for >altitude. Our original datum was WSG84 (geoid or 3D) which has a vertical datum along with lat/long - and we added the UoM of floors for wired devices (one of the primary reqs of this effort) because for emergency responders in buildings - a meters of altitude value was determined to be too vague (which floor is 63 meters up?), thus necessitating "floors" be included instead of meters. Floors have an established "0" as written in this ID. We also included text stating that ~ 'if the datum does not include an altitude datum, consider "0" altitude to be "mean low tide" '. Perhaps we didn't take the same preciseness of altitude into account that we did for lat/long. We favored the view that precision of altitude in meters wouldn't be as important as it is in lat/long. We're obviously being corrected for that now. However, I presently don't favor a move to separate the current altitude field into two: one of altitude (in meters for example), and one for floors (exclusively). I don't yet see the reason why both should reasonably ever be included at the same time. Parsing on the Altitude UoM field to see how the Altitude value should be interpreted should be sufficient here. Adding text defining altitude, I have no problem with. I look forward to Greg's opinion (and hopefully text to this) to resolve this issue of clarity. We should state what's most reasonable towards defining or scoping altitude, and yet not try to solve (within an IETF document) that which (per Greg) hasn't been resolved by Geoloc focused people for more than a century (re: vertical datums). Does this sound fair? cheers, James ******************* The answer is "42", what's the question? _______________________________________________ dhcwg mailing list dhcwg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dhcwg
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- RE: [dhcwg] Fwd: Working Group Last Call: Locatio… Marc Linsner
- Re: [dhcwg] Fwd: Working Group Last Call: Locatio… Henning Schulzrinne
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- [dhcwg] Unit of Measurement...? James M. Polk
- Re: [dhcwg] Fwd: Working Group Last Call: Locatio… John Schnizlein
- [dhcwg] Re: Unit of Measurement...? James M. Polk
- Re: [dhcwg] Fwd: Working Group Last Call: Locatio… James M. Polk
- RE: [dhcwg] Fwd: Working Group Last Call: Locatio… Marc Linsner
- Re: [dhcwg] Fwd: Working Group Last Call: Locatio… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [dhcwg] Fwd: Working Group Last Call: Locatio… Greg Troxel
- [dhcwg] Re: Unit of Measurement...? Henning Schulzrinne
- [dhcwg] Re: Unit of Measurement...? Greg Troxel
- Re: [dhcwg] Fwd: Working Group Last Call: Locatio… Greg Troxel
- Re: [dhcwg] Fwd: Working Group Last Call: Locatio… Greg Troxel
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