Re: [dhcwg] DDNS-DHCP [6]: Relationship between DNS TTL and DHCP lease length
Ralph Droms <rdroms@cisco.com> Thu, 19 June 2003 21:36 UTC
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Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 17:33:07 -0400
To: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
From: Ralph Droms <rdroms@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: [dhcwg] DDNS-DHCP [6]: Relationship between DNS TTL and DHCP lease length
Cc: Robert Elz <kre@munnari.OZ.AU>, dhcwg@ietf.org, namedroppers@ops.ietf.org
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I agree with Ted ... in fact, I had a conversation about exactly this problem earlier today. In theory, any application shouldn't depend on just DNS to identify and establish contact with the correct endpoint (server). In practice, we have many such applications deployed today, so we should be careful not to provide another path for breakage... - Ralph At 12:40 PM 6/19/2003 -0500, Ted Lemon wrote: >On Thursday 19 June 2003 06:19, Robert Elz wrote: > > That is, reworded, to make sure my understanding is correct, the > > problem to be avoided is having a name referring to an address that > > is now to be assigned to a different name ? > > > > Who cares? > >Let's say machine X has an SMTP listener, and machine Y also has an SMTP >listener. Machine X gets an IP address, Z, from the DHCP server. Then the >owner of Machine X wanders away, leaving the lease active. The lease >expires, and then machine Y gets the address. But there is still an A >record for machine X pointing at IP address Z. So now, machine Q connects >to Z because of that A record, and tries to drop mail for X on Y. Y will >either bounce it immediately, or bounce it after it notices that the A record >for X is pointing at it. So we'd really like it if the time that the A >record goes away and the time that the lease goes away are fairly close >together, so that the chances of this happening are slim. > >Of course, I would say that this is a broken configuration anyway - you >really >want to use protocols that verify who they're talking to if you have a mobile >computer. But that's the basis for caring about this sort of thing, and >while I don't think we can completely solve the problem, it's worth setting >things up to minimize the damage that occurs in cases like this. > > >_______________________________________________ >dhcwg mailing list >dhcwg@ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dhcwg _______________________________________________ dhcwg mailing list dhcwg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dhcwg
- Re: [dhcwg] DDNS-DHCP [6]: Relationship between D… Ralph Droms
- Re: [dhcwg] DDNS-DHCP [6]: Relationship between D… Robert Elz
- Re: [dhcwg] DDNS-DHCP [6]: Relationship between D… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] DDNS-DHCP [6]: Relationship between D… Ralph Droms
- Re: [dhcwg] DDNS-DHCP [6]: Relationship between D… Robert Elz
- Re: [dhcwg] DDNS-DHCP [6]: Relationship between D… Mark Stapp
- Re: [dhcwg] DDNS-DHCP [6]: Relationship between D… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] DDNS-DHCP [6]: Relationship between D… Edward Lewis
- Re: [dhcwg] DDNS-DHCP [6]: Relationship between D… D. J. Bernstein
- Re: [dhcwg] DDNS-DHCP [6]: Relationship between D… Michael Richardson
- Re: [dhcwg] DDNS-DHCP [6]: Relationship between D… Robert Elz
- Re: [dhcwg] DDNS-DHCP [6]: Relationship between D… D. J. Bernstein
- Re: [dhcwg] DDNS-DHCP [6]: Relationship between D… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] DDNS-DHCP [6]: Relationship between D… Bruce Campbell
- Re: [dhcwg] DDNS-DHCP [6]: Relationship between D… D. J. Bernstein
- Re: [dhcwg] DDNS-DHCP [6]: Relationship between D… Paul Vixie
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