RE: [dhcwg] Trust model of Client FQDN option
"Bernie Volz" <volz@cisco.com> Wed, 04 August 2004 00:55 UTC
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From: Bernie Volz <volz@cisco.com>
To: 'Ted Lemon' <mellon@fugue.com>, 'Pekka Savola' <pekkas@netcore.fi>
Subject: RE: [dhcwg] Trust model of Client FQDN option
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2004 20:39:25 -0400
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Also, it is generally viewed as a bad idea to mix both static and dynamic DNS resource records in a zone. So, if you want to completely avoid the problem, keep the zones which contain the administrative DNS information (www., ftp., pop3., ...) separate from the (dynamic) client information. - Bernie > -----Original Message----- > From: dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org] > On Behalf Of Ted Lemon > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 6:19 PM > To: Pekka Savola > Cc: dhcwg@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [dhcwg] Trust model of Client FQDN option > > > On Aug 3, 2004, at 11:03 AM, Pekka Savola wrote: > > I'm not sure the v4 or v6 DHC FQDN client options address > the problem > > of the trust model for the update content sufficiently > well. I'd even > > go as far to say that it might create a false sense of security. > > Pekka, in the meeting this morning, you said you hadn't read > the drafts > having to do with DNS updates on DHCPv4. Have you now read them? > The reason I ask is that for the entire duration of the time > I've been > coming to IETF, people have occasionally raised the very same > issue you > are now raising. > > The solution we have adopted, which is widely deployed, allows two > answers to your question. The first is a more paranoid > solution that > requires widespread distribution of individual DNS update keys. The > second is a more laissez-faire solution that does not require the > distribution of individual DNS update keys. This second solution is > no more or less secure than the first, but its behavior is > different. > Names added by the DHCP server are marked as such, and if a name is > present and was not added by the DHCP server, that name can't be > replaced at the request of the DHCP client. When a client's lease > expires, another client can acquire the previous client's name, so > there's no protection for client names. You get to pick which > solution to deploy, based on your willingness to distribute keys and > based on whether or not you care whether a DHCP client can count on > retaining its name, once its name is registered. > > So this is a well-understood problem, with well-understood and widely > deployed solutions. You can see an example implementation > in the ISC > DHCP client and server if you're curious, and as far as I know every > commercial DHCP server also implements this, and I know of > quite a few > sites that use it in practice. Indeed, it's been deployed at IETF > meetings in the past (not sure if it's running this time). > > > _______________________________________________ > dhcwg mailing list > dhcwg@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dhcwg > _______________________________________________ dhcwg mailing list dhcwg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dhcwg
- [dhcwg] Trust model of Client FQDN option Pekka Savola
- Re: [dhcwg] Trust model of Client FQDN option Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] Trust model of Client FQDN option Pekka Savola
- RE: [dhcwg] Trust model of Client FQDN option Bernie Volz
- RE: [dhcwg] Trust model of Client FQDN option Bernie Volz
- Re: [dhcwg] Trust model of Client FQDN option Mark Stapp
- RE: [dhcwg] Trust model of Client FQDN option Pekka Savola
- Re: [dhcwg] Trust model of Client FQDN option Ted Lemon
- RE: [dhcwg] Trust model of Client FQDN option Bernie Volz
- Re: [dhcwg] Trust model of Client FQDN option Ted Lemon
- RE: [dhcwg] Trust model of Client FQDN option Bernie Volz
- Re: [dhcwg] Trust model of Client FQDN option Ted Lemon