Re: [dhcwg] DHCP hackathon in Prague: SeDHCPv6

Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Wed, 07 June 2017 21:19 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dhcwg] DHCP hackathon in Prague: SeDHCPv6
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On Jun 7, 2017, at 3:29 PM, Francis Dupont <Francis.Dupont@fdupont.fr> wrote:
> The world is divided between people who think it is an
> advantage and people who think it is *the* problem.
> Obviously I am in the first part, you in the second. Now I did a lot of
> kernel programming (including IPsec kernel programming) so I am very
> far to be neutral...

Actually, the two groups of people into which the world is divided are those who think the world is divided into two groups of people, and those who do not.   :)

The point of this joke is that actually I don't have any problem with encryption being done in the kernel, but I don't see how to make it work for this use case, because we don't have end-to-end communication with the server.