Re: [dhcwg] [ntpwg] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ogud-dhc-udp-time-option-01.txt
Kurt Roeckx <kurt@roeckx.be> Tue, 03 December 2013 12:27 UTC
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Subject: Re: [dhcwg] [ntpwg] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ogud-dhc-udp-time-option-01.txt
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On Sun, Dec 01, 2013 at 07:31:11PM -0500, Danny Mayer wrote: > I think we need to figure out how to get around the Catch-22 situation > of DNSSEC requiring relatively good time and NTP wanting to be able to > use DNS to find valid NTP servers. If the box doesn't have an rtc, and so maybe starts in 1970, and doesn't have anything it can trust there is no way out of it. You first need _something_ you can trust be it time or some certificate. I do not trust my ISP, so I don't see how I can get that started and be sure that both my time are correct and dnssec validates properly. The only way I see around this is that someone manually checks that the time is correct. Kurt
- Re: [dhcwg] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Ted Lemon
- [dhcwg] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-o… Olafur Gudmundsson
- Re: [dhcwg] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Olafur Gudmundsson
- Re: [dhcwg] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Danny Mayer
- Re: [dhcwg] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] [ntpwg] Fwd: New Version Notification… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] [ntpwg] Fwd: New Version Notification… Danny Mayer
- Re: [dhcwg] [ntpwg] Fwd: New Version Notification… Harlan Stenn
- Re: [dhcwg] [ntpwg] Fwd: New Version Notification… Warner Losh
- Re: [dhcwg] [ntpwg] Fwd: New Version Notification… Olafur Gudmundsson
- Re: [dhcwg] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Olafur Gudmundsson
- Re: [dhcwg] [ntpwg] Fwd: New Version Notification… Olafur Gudmundsson
- Re: [dhcwg] [ntpwg] Fwd: New Version Notification… Michael Richardson
- Re: [dhcwg] [ntpwg] Fwd: New Version Notification… Michael Richardson
- Re: [dhcwg] [ntpwg] Fwd: New Version Notification… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] [ntpwg] Fwd: New Version Notification… Sanjeev Gupta
- Re: [dhcwg] [ntpwg] Fwd: New Version Notification… Danny Mayer
- Re: [dhcwg] [ntpwg] Fwd: New Version Notification… Olafur Gudmundsson
- Re: [dhcwg] [ntpwg] Fwd: New Version Notification… Warner Losh
- Re: [dhcwg] [ntpwg] Fwd: New Version Notification… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] [ntpwg] Fwd: New Version Notification… Warner Losh
- Re: [dhcwg] [ntpwg] Fwd: New Version Notification… Harlan Stenn
- Re: [dhcwg] [ntpwg] Fwd: New Version Notification… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] [ntpwg] Fwd: New Version Notification… Warner Losh
- Re: [dhcwg] [ntpwg] Fwd: New Version Notification… Harlan Stenn
- Re: [dhcwg] [ntpwg] Fwd: New Version Notification… Mark Andrews
- Re: [dhcwg] [ntpwg] Fwd: New Version Notification… Mark Andrews
- Re: [dhcwg] [ntpwg] Fwd: New Version Notification… Michael Richardson
- Re: [dhcwg] [ntpwg] Fwd: New Version Notification… Kurt Roeckx
- Re: [dhcwg] [ntpwg] Fwd: New Version Notification… Kurt Roeckx
- Re: [dhcwg] [ntpwg] Fwd: New Version Notification… Harlan Stenn