Re: [dhcwg] preliminary comments on draft-ietf-dhc-sedhcpv6-17

Lishan Li <lilishan48@gmail.com> Thu, 17 November 2016 16:56 UTC

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From: Lishan Li <lilishan48@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2016 00:56:35 +0800
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Subject: Re: [dhcwg] preliminary comments on draft-ietf-dhc-sedhcpv6-17
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2016-11-17 23:53 GMT+08:00 神明達哉 <jinmei@wide.ad.jp>:

> At Thu, 17 Nov 2016 22:19:33 +0800,
> Lishan Li <lilishan48@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > [LS]: I don't think it is a problem caused by secure DHCPv6. DHCPv6
> > also has this problem. If the two clients share one same transaction-id,
> > how the server distinguish two clients? And a new transaction-id is
> > generated for Encrypted-Query and Encrypted-Response message,
> > two clients may also generate the same transaction-id.
>
> There seems to be some fundamental confusion about transaction-id.  In
> bare DHCPv6, the transaction-id is for each client to match a response
> with the message it sent (distinguishing from other messages the
> client might have sent in parallel).  So there's no problem even if
> multiple clients use the same transaction ID at the same time.  This
> is a new problem introduced in your proposal.
>
[LS]: Thanks a lot for your explanation.
Then, for the next step, the transaction-id of Encrypted-Query and
Encrypted-Response message works as identifier for the public key
of encryption and private key for decryption.
When receiving the first Encrypted-Query message, the server has
to try all the private keys that it might use.
Could you please check whether my understanding correct?

Thanks again,
Lishan