Re: [dhcwg] Advancing RFC 3315 and RFC 3633 to Internet Standard

"Leaf Yeh" <leaf.yeh.sdo@gmail.com> Tue, 24 September 2013 16:01 UTC

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From: Leaf Yeh <leaf.yeh.sdo@gmail.com>
To: 'Alexandru Petrescu' <alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com>, 'Ralph Droms' <rdroms.ietf@gmail.com>
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Ralph > And how does that route get to the other routers?

Alexandru > They are all on the same link, and one mechanism used to install
routes dynamically is during ICMP Redirect.

 

Are you talking about the following network structure?

 

 

cid:image001.png@01CEB97F.D782C5E0

 

Only Router-A acts as the DR.

 

Is this structure important in your mind?

 

 

Best Regards,

Leaf

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
Alexandru Petrescu
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 9:35 PM
To: Ralph Droms
Cc: dhcwg@ietf.org WG
Subject: Re: [dhcwg] Advancing RFC 3315 and RFC 3633 to Internet Standard

 

Le 24/09/2013 10:32, Ralph Droms a écrit :

> 

> On Sep 23, 2013, at 3:58 PM 9/23/13, Alexandru Petrescu 

> < <mailto:alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com> alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com>
wrote:

> 

>> Le 23/09/2013 15:55, Tomek Mrugalski a écrit :

>>> On 23.09.2013 13:50, Alexandru Petrescu wrote:

>>>> Le 22/09/2013 19:57, Leaf Yeh a écrit :

>>>>> Ralph > The piece of network equipment that implements the relay 

>>>>> agent routes, and that network equipment *might* also need a 

>>>>> route.

>>>>> 

>>>>> On the PE router implementing relay for DHCPv6-PD, it always needs 

>>>>> add the associated route for the CE's network of delegated prefix. 

>>>>> I can't see *might* here.

>>>> 

>>>> I agree with the doubt.  I don't see a might, but rather a must. 

>>>> Otherwise it doesn't work.

>>>> 

>>>> But maybe I dont understand the word 'might' as a native speaker 

>>>> could hear it.

>>> Relay agent is functionality that can be provided by a piece of 

>>> software. You can run it on any box that is connected to more than 

>>> one network. Although typically such a box serves as a router, it 

>>> doesn't have to.

>> 

>> You mean a Relay agent which runs on a pure Host (single real 

>> interface, no additional virtual/real interfaces)?

>> 

>> Even in that case it (or the Router on the same link which is 

>> connected to the Internet) will need to install a route towards the 

>> Requesting Router's interface for the delegated prefix.

> 

> And there's the exact point of the discussion - if the relay agent is 

> not implemented on the router that needs the route, passing the route 

> in the DHCPv6 message exchange through the relay agent won't get the 

> route to the appropriate router.

> 

>> 

>> In all cases, the Relay and other routers on that link MUST install a 

>> route.

> 

> And how does that route get to the other routers?

 

They are all on the same link, and one mechanism used to install routes
dynamically is during ICMP Redirect.

 

>> Whether they do it at allocation time, at ICMP Redirect time, or at 

>> manual config time - is another matter.

> 

> I'm not saying the route installation can't be accomplished through 

> DHCPv6.  I think you'll need to address the specific issues I raised 

> in previous e-mail to publish a specification for passing routing 

> information to the appropriate router through a DHCPv6 message 

> exchange with a host.

 

Ok, my point is whether or not we could formulate a problem statement for
this: there is a need for a route in the concerned routers, after the PD
operation.  Without that route the communication can't be established
between Hosts configured with an address prefixed by the delegated prefix.

 

Alex

 

> 

> - Ralph

> 

>> 

>> Without that route the whole schmillblick doesn't work.

>> 

>> Alex

>> 

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