[dhcwg] FW: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-hilliard-v6ops-host-addr-update-00.txt
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From: "Bernie Volz (volz)" <volz@cisco.com>
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Subject: [dhcwg] FW: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-hilliard-v6ops-host-addr-update-00.txt
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FYI – This may be of interest to DHC WG members. See https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-hilliard-v6ops-host-addr-update-00.txt. * Bernie From: v6ops <v6ops-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Job Snijders <job@instituut.net> Date: Monday, July 17, 2017 at 9:19 PM To: Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org>, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Cc: "v6ops@ietf.org" <v6ops@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-hilliard-v6ops-host-addr-update-00.txt Hi Ted, This contribution made us realize that perhaps a clarification would be useful: https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ipv6/current/msg28040.html Kind regards, Job On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 at 20:17, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com<mailto:mellon@fugue.com>> wrote: The RFC doesn't say that anywhere in it. There is no version of the draft that was published on 2/12/2016. The -01 version of the draft was published in March of that year; the final version in July. Can you please point out the place in the text where it says what you are saying it says? On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 7:47 PM, Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org<mailto:nick@foobar.org>> wrote: draft-hilliard-v6ops-host-addr-update-00 has just been posted as an ID. It has recently been claimed that IETF best current practice is that DHCPv6 is not recommended due to the recommendations section in RFC7934/BCP204. The relevant text was slipped into draft-ietf-v6ops-host-addr-availability-05 on Feb 12, 2016, a couple of days before the document went into IETF LC. There was no discussion about this text change either in the v6ops working group or at IETF review or IESG level: perhaps the modification appeared innocuous or maybe it just wasn't not noticed. Next thing, there's a BCP which is being interpreted as meaning that DHCPv6 is NOT RECOMMENDED for operational use. Wow. :-) This presents a variety of problems, the most serious of which are 1) that a BCP is implying that the use of DHCPv6 was "NOT RECOMMENDED" without extensive discussion or debate about this particular issue at the relevant working group, and ignores the both the widespread use of the protocol and its active development at the ietf, and 2) that a change in the status of DHCPv6 to "NOT RECOMMENDED" leaves a huge hole in the IPv6 host specification. Job and I believe that this went through by mistake and that if the WG had noticed the change at the time, consensus would never have been reached on what is a serious semantic change to IETF lore. Right now, the most prudent course of action would be to roll back the change until a proper debate has been had. We invite WG comments on this doc. Nick internet-drafts@ietf.org<mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote: > A new version of I-D, draft-hilliard-v6ops-host-addr-update-00.txt > has been successfully submitted by Nick Hilliard and posted to the > IETF repository. > > Name: draft-hilliard-v6ops-host-addr-update > Revision: 00 > Title: Update for IPv6 Host Address Availability Recommendations > Document date: 2017-07-17 > Group: Individual Submission > Pages: 4 > URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hilliard-v6ops-host-addr-update-00.txt > Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hilliard-v6ops-host-addr-update/ > Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hilliard-v6ops-host-addr-update-00 > Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-hilliard-v6ops-host-addr-update-00 > > > Abstract: > The IPv6 Host Address Availability Recommendations Best Current > Practice (RFC 7934), describes why IPv6 hosts should use multiple > global addresses when attaching to a network. This document updates > RFC 7934 by removing a recommendation for networks to give the host > the ability to use new addresses without requiring explicit requests. > > > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org<http://tools.ietf.org>. > > The IETF Secretariat > _______________________________________________ v6ops mailing list v6ops@ietf.org<mailto:v6ops@ietf.org> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops _______________________________________________ v6ops mailing list v6ops@ietf.org<mailto:v6ops@ietf.org> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops
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