Re: [ntpwg] [dhcwg] Re: Network Time Protocol (NTP) OptionsforDHCPv6

	They are not the only ISP that supplies time.  Optus does and
	I'm pretty sure Telstra also does.  My home box is sync'd to
	a Optus NTP server.

	Mark

> Perhaps some other ISP's involved with the NTPWG would care to comment
> on whether or not the poor practice of the past is still in place, or
> being replaced with best practice (which is to install their own
> servers, or reach an agreement for the use of somebody else's).=20
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brad Knowles [mailto:brad@shub-internet.org]=20
> Sent: 27 November 2007 18:42
> To: Flavin,AJ,Tony,DMJ R; brad@shub-internet.org; Mark_Andrews@isc.org
> Cc: mayer@ntp.isc.org; ntpwg@lists.ntp.org; mellon@fugue.com;
> rgayraud@cisco.com; dhcwg@ietf.org
> Subject: RE: [ntpwg] [dhcwg] Re: Network Time Protocol (NTP)
> OptionsforDHCPv6
> 
> On 11/27/07, <anthony.flavin@bt.com> wrote:
> 
> >  Completely wrong.
> 
> My statement was with regards to most ISPs that I have experience with
> or or where we have had reports from others.
> 
> Your specific ISP was not necessarily included in that statement.=20
> Therefore, your single solitary counter-example does not necessarily
> disprove anything.
> 
> >  I can assure you that we do run our own NTP servers, and our customer
> 
> > routers are pre-configured with a Name not an IP address to get to
> them.
> >  We let our DNS servers sort out the load balancing issues (if we ever
> 
> > get any).
> 
> You're just one ISP.  You do not comprise the whole of all ISPs on the
> planet.
> 
> >  It's working fine, and several hundred-thousand clients can't be
> wrong!
> 
> And I personally worked at AOL (tens of millions of customers) and the
> largest ISP in Belgium (over a million customers), and I've consulted at
> other ISPs around the world.  We've also had reports regarding a number
> of other ISPs around the world.
> 
> Your one counter example does not disprove our experience.
> 
> --
> Brad Knowles <brad@shub-internet.org>
> LinkedIn Profile: <http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu>
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