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From: "Bernie Volz (EUD)" <Bernie.Volz@am1.ericsson.se>
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Sorry, forgot to include the main list on this issue so resending.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bernie Volz (EUD) 
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 8:46 PM
To: 'Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino'
Subject: RE: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-22.txt comments


Itojun:

Is this really a major concern for you? We aren't asking that much of the client - we already ask it to retransmit messages and keep this much state, is asking it to ignore additional Reconfigure messages really that much state to keep?
It doesn't have to remember this state if it crashes or is shutdown (since it should do an Inform when it starts to make sure its current configuration is accurate).

In fact, we might want to add some text to the draft (if it isn't already there) that a client that has used Inform should re-Inform when it detects that it may have moved to a new link (ie, send an Inform when a Confirm was to have been used if the client obtained addresses).

- Bernie

-----[Modified] Original Message-----
From: Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino [mailto:itojun@iijlab.net]
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 3:54 AM
To: rdroms@cisco.com
Cc: dhcwg@ietf.org
Subject: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-22.txt comments

(text cut)

4.
As far as I understand the goal of Inform message is to make it possible
to make it possible to implement a stateless client which obtains various
information from DHCPv6 server (draft-droms-dnsconfig-dhcpv6-00.txt).
My question - does it make you any trouble if there's a client implementation
that does not understand Reconfigure message?  If we try to support
Reconfigure (Inform solicited by DHCP server) client implementation becomes
stateful.  Also, it would have been easier if Inform message does not mandate
DUID...

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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sorry, forgot to include the main list on this issue =
so resending.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Bernie Volz (EUD) </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 8:46 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: 'Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino'</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: RE: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-22.txt =
comments</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Itojun:</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Is this really a major concern for you? We aren't =
asking that much of the client - we already ask it to retransmit =
messages and keep this much state, is asking it to ignore additional =
Reconfigure messages really that much state to keep?</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>It doesn't have to remember this state if it crashes =
or is shutdown (since it should do an Inform when it starts to make =
sure its current configuration is accurate).</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>In fact, we might want to add some text to the draft =
(if it isn't already there) that a client that has used Inform should =
re-Inform when it detects that it may have moved to a new link (ie, =
send an Inform when a Confirm was to have been used if the client =
obtained addresses).</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>- Bernie</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----[Modified] Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:itojun@iijlab.net">mailto:itojun@iijlab.net</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 3:54 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: rdroms@cisco.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Cc: dhcwg@ietf.org</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-22.txt =
comments</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>(text cut)</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>4.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>As far as I understand the goal of Inform message is =
to make it possible</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>to make it possible to implement a stateless client =
which obtains various</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>information from DHCPv6 server =
(draft-droms-dnsconfig-dhcpv6-00.txt).</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>My question - does it make you any trouble if =
there's a client implementation</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>that does not understand Reconfigure message?&nbsp; =
If we try to support</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Reconfigure (Inform solicited by DHCP server) client =
implementation becomes</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>stateful.&nbsp; Also, it would have been easier if =
Inform message does not mandate</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>DUID...</FONT>
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