Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-client-link-layer-addr-opt-00.txt
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Subject: Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-client-link-layer-addr-opt-00.txt
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This is exactly the ISP case. Administrator doesn't really care how the DHCP server is tracking leases, only that there is some mechanism to correlate between v4 and v6. ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marc Perea" <marccp@srttel.com> > To: dhcwg@ietf.org > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 3:30:17 PM > Subject: Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: > draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-client-link-layer-addr-opt-00.txt > While true that the primary key of the DHCP server lease would be > client id, in the cases that this draft was intended to support the > MAC is a known indentifier readily printed on the outside of > ethernet packaging and on labels while hardware is powered off and > not connected to the network. That MAC is directly tied to a > client/customer in many operator environments, whether it sends > client-id or not. From the operator perspective, we don't really > care whether the DHCProtocol uses client-id or MAC to index it's > internal database - what we are concerned with is matching a MAC in > existing non-DHCP database to a client/customer so that we can match > a v4 address and a v6 address (or several of each) to an individual > client/customer. The solution is intended to have the relay grab the > MAC from the v6 packet and add that as an option (hint) to the DHCP > server. Such implementation fills the need of the problem at hand, > only requiring changes be made to relay agents and DHCP servers. WG > members represent most of the DHCPv6 server software and relay > hardware/software suppliers. In short, the WG is both willing and > able to effect the changes presented in the draft. > It sounds like you're contending that the DHCP server won't be able > to know which v4 == which v6 client, and I don't know if that's a > problem. The problem this is intended to solve is that without > supporting the link layer address that is readily available before > connecting a device to a network or even turning it on, there is no > way to set the server in advance to hand out known addresses that > are intended for a specific client. For network access control and > some tracking mechanisms, this is a big problem. By adding MAC to > the v6 exchange, operators are able to match up MAC tracking > databases, where MAC is an important index that they care about. The > fact that the DHCP server uses or doesn't use it is irrelevant. > We've presented what use case caused this draft to come into > existence, and I understand the desire to make a protocol robust, > but can you present a use case that relates here so that I can > understand what you'd additionally like to achieve? > _______________________________________________ > dhcwg mailing list > dhcwg@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dhcwg
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Shwetha Bhandari (shwethab)
- [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-client-… internet-drafts
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Andre Kostur
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Andre Kostur
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… A. Gregory Rabil
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… A. Gregory Rabil
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Andre Kostur
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… A. Gregory Rabil
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Andre Kostur
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… A. Gregory Rabil
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Marc Perea
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… A. Gregory Rabil
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Simon Hobson
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… A. Gregory Rabil
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… A. Gregory Rabil
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Andre Kostur
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Andre Kostur
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Gaurav Halwasia (ghalwasi)
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… perl-list
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Simon Hobson
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Andre Kostur
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… perl-list
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Andre Kostur
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… perl-list
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Marc Perea
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Andre Kostur
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Eustace, Glen
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action:draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-clie… Marc Perea
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… A. Gregory Rabil
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action:draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-clie… perl-list
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… perl-list
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… perl-list
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… perl-list
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Eustace, Glen
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… perl-list
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Tim Chown
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Eustace, Glen
- Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-cli… Hans Liu