Re: [dhcwg] IETF-93 Follow Up - draft-ietf-dhc-stable-privacy-addresses (Respond by Aug 11, 2015)
Tomek Mrugalski <tomasz.mrugalski@gmail.com> Wed, 29 July 2015 17:45 UTC
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Subject: Re: [dhcwg] IETF-93 Follow Up - draft-ietf-dhc-stable-privacy-addresses (Respond by Aug 11, 2015)
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On 29/07/15 19:25, Bernie Volz (volz) wrote: > At the DHC WG session at IETF-93 (Prague), we had a discussion about > next steps for draft-ietf-dhc-stable-privacy-addresses. In particular, I > (Bernie Volz) proposed we consider it a “dead WG” document (or possibly > continue it as Informational). The consensus (hum) in the room was as > follows: > > - Most felt (loudest hum) we should consider it a “dead WG” document. > > - A few (minor hum) were in favor of continuing work on it as > an Information draft. > > - None (silent) were in favor of continuing work as is > (standards track). As a co-chair I confirm that it was my perception as well. The hum indicated that people in the room strongly favored marking the doc as dead WG document. With my co-chair hat off, I think this draft could have been useful couple years ago. It defines an allocation strategy that could be beneficial in certain cases. Some modern DHCP servers allow multiple allocation strategies and this could have been one of them. The text suggested that the algorithm specified is the only right way to do it. It is not. But my strongest objection to it is that privacy and stable do not mix well. The general consensus seems be that changing MAC addresses and all associated identifiers over time is the way to go. That's what the anonymity profile and other associated work in other WGs is proposing. Had we published this draft, it would be confusing for vendors what the recommendation for privacy is: randomize MAC addresses or go with stable privacy addresses. Based on that I'm in favor of dropping this work. Tomek
- [dhcwg] IETF-93 Follow Up - draft-ietf-dhc-stable… Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [dhcwg] IETF-93 Follow Up - draft-ietf-dhc-st… Tomek Mrugalski
- Re: [dhcwg] IETF-93 Follow Up - draft-ietf-dhc-st… Fernando Gont
- Re: [dhcwg] IETF-93 Follow Up - draft-ietf-dhc-st… Fernando Gont
- Re: [dhcwg] IETF-93 Follow Up - draft-ietf-dhc-st… Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [dhcwg] IETF-93 Follow Up - draft-ietf-dhc-st… 神明達哉
- Re: [dhcwg] IETF-93 Follow Up - draft-ietf-dhc-st… Christian Huitema
- [dhcwg] Security/Privacy & Addressing (was: Re: I… Fernando Gont
- Re: [dhcwg] IETF-93 Follow Up - draft-ietf-dhc-st… Loganaden Velvindron
- Re: [dhcwg] IETF-93 Follow Up - draft-ietf-dhc-st… Tomek Mrugalski
- Re: [dhcwg] IETF-93 Follow Up - draft-ietf-dhc-st… Liushucheng (Will)
- Re: [dhcwg] IETF-93 Follow Up - draft-ietf-dhc-st… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [dhcwg] IETF-93 Follow Up - draft-ietf-dhc-st… Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [dhcwg] IETF-93 Follow Up - draft-ietf-dhc-st… Fernando Gont
- Re: [dhcwg] IETF-93 Follow Up - draft-ietf-dhc-st… Fernando Gont
- Re: [dhcwg] IETF-93 Follow Up - draft-ietf-dhc-st… Fernando Gont
- Re: [dhcwg] IETF-93 Follow Up - draft-ietf-dhc-st… Fernando Gont
- Re: [dhcwg] IETF-93 Follow Up - draft-ietf-dhc-st… Linhui Sun
- Re: [dhcwg] IETF-93 Follow Up - draft-ietf-dhc-st… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [dhcwg] IETF-93 Follow Up - draft-ietf-dhc-st… Fernando Gont
- Re: [dhcwg] IETF-93 Follow Up - draft-ietf-dhc-st… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [dhcwg] IETF-93 Follow Up - draft-ietf-dhc-st… 神明達哉
- Re: [dhcwg] IETF-93 Follow Up - draft-ietf-dhc-st… Linhui Sun
- Re: [dhcwg] IETF-93 Follow Up - draft-ietf-dhc-st… Fernando Gont
- Re: [dhcwg] IETF-93 Follow Up - draft-ietf-dhc-st… Chuck Anderson
- Re: [dhcwg] IETF-93 Follow Up - draft-ietf-dhc-st… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [dhcwg] IETF-93 Follow Up - draft-ietf-dhc-st… Fernando Gont
- Re: [dhcwg] IETF-93 Follow Up - draft-ietf-dhc-st… Lorenzo Colitti