Re: [dhcwg] [homenet] What to do when we lose DHCPv4 election?
Steven Barth <cyrus@openwrt.org> Mon, 17 August 2015 11:46 UTC
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Subject: Re: [dhcwg] [homenet] What to do when we lose DHCPv4 election?
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Am 17.08.2015 um 12:23 schrieb Juliusz Chroboczek: >>> When a Homenet router was previously acting as DHCPv4 server for >>> a link, and subsequently loses an election, should it: > >>> 1. remain silent; >>> 2. remain silent in response to DHCPDISCOVER, but NAK any DHCPREQUEST; or >>> 3. NAK both DHCPDISCOVER and DHCPREQUEST? > >> I think that #2 is probably correct > > Thanks. What after a renumbering event and the addresses that the client > requests are no longer onlink? I'd like a precise reference, if that's > okay. At first glance all 3 behaviors seem sensible, while 2 and 3 look more preferable. However I do not particularly remember all the implications. In any case I'm thinking of adding "Routers which seize to be elected DHCP servers SHOULD - when applicable - invalidate remaining existing bindings in order to trigger client reconfiguration." as a generic recommendation. > >> 1) do Homenet-aware DHCPv4 servers pick the same rfc1918 address spaces to >> give out? > > Not necessarily -- if there are multiple prefixes assigned to the link, > the spec doesn't say which prefix is used by each server. (Shncpd uses > them all, which I'm not sure is a good idea.) Electing a single DHCPv4 > server for each link works around the issue. There is only one IPv4 "delegated" prefix at a time in an HNCP network. "In case multiple IPv4 prefixes are announced, only the one published by the node with the highest node identifier is kept among those with a Prefix Policy of type 0 - if there is any." So as long as the Assigned Prefix for a link does not change the DHCPv4 pools stays the same. Individual DHCPv4 servers might use different algorithms to assign addresses from within the pool.
- Re: [dhcwg] [homenet] What to do when we lose DHC… Michael Richardson
- Re: [dhcwg] [homenet] What to do when we lose DHC… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [dhcwg] [homenet] What to do when we lose DHC… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [dhcwg] [homenet] What to do when we lose DHC… Steven Barth
- Re: [dhcwg] [homenet] What to do when we lose DHC… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [dhcwg] [homenet] What to do when we lose DHC… Michael Richardson
- Re: [dhcwg] [homenet] What to do when we lose DHC… Michael Richardson
- Re: [dhcwg] [homenet] What to do when we lose DHC… Steven Barth
- Re: [dhcwg] [homenet] What to do when we lose DHC… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [dhcwg] [homenet] What to do when we lose DHC… Michael Richardson
- Re: [dhcwg] [homenet] What to do when we lose DHC… Michael Richardson
- Re: [dhcwg] [homenet] What to do when we lose DHC… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [dhcwg] [homenet] What to do when we lose DHC… Bernie Volz (volz)