RE: [dhcwg] dhcpv6-24: movement detection and Confirm message
"Bernie Volz (EUD)" <Bernie.Volz@am1.ericsson.se> Wed, 08 May 2002 16:18 UTC
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From: "Bernie Volz (EUD)" <Bernie.Volz@am1.ericsson.se>
To: 'Thomas Narten' <narten@us.ibm.com>, dhcwg@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [dhcwg] dhcpv6-24: movement detection and Confirm message
Date: Wed, 08 May 2002 11:15:52 -0500
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I don't have a major issue if we dropped Confirm. It is just one of the ways a client could determine whether it moved; it really isn't a requirement to have within the DHCP specification. Do note however that since RAs don't have a unique link ID (yet?) and a RA might contain no prefixes (just have the "M" flag set), and in this case Confirm could be useful. - Bernie -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Narten [mailto:narten@us.ibm.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 11:07 AM To: dhcwg@ietf.org Subject: [dhcwg] dhcpv6-24: movement detection and Confirm message > 18.1.2. Creation and transmission of Confirm messages > > Whenever a client may have moved to a new link, its IPv6 addresses > and other configuration information may no longer be valid. Examples > of times when a client may have moved to a new link include: > > o The client reboots > > o The client is physically disconnected from a wired connection > > o The client returns from sleep mode > > o The client using a wireless technology changes access points > > In any situation when a client may have moved to a new link, the > client MUST initiate a Confirm/Reply message exchange. The client Hmm. I wonder if movement detection should just be dropped from DHC. The problem of determining whether you have reconnected to a new link is a generic problem, not just one that DHC has. If you have routers, for example, you could use RAs to determine that you have moved, which would then retrigger DHC (as appropriate). I could imagine an RA option that included a unique identifier for the link (this might be useful for mobility in general). Or, you could just see of the router you were using has changed (its link-local address is an identifier). Or, use the set of on-link prefixes on the RA. If they are the same as before, you presumably haven't moved. Having the client send DHC messages to the server to determine whether it has moved seems like a fair amount of overhead and sub optimal. Also, if one dropped the movement detection from DHC, would this allow you to do away with the Confirm? I.e., if a client detects that it has moved, then just have it redo the normal DHC exchanges. That would seem simpler. Plus, if a node has actually moved, the confirm will fail, and the normal DHC exchanges have to be used anyway. Thomas _______________________________________________ dhcwg mailing list dhcwg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dhcwg
- [dhcwg] dhcpv6-24: movement detection and Confirm… Thomas Narten
- Re: [dhcwg] dhcpv6-24: movement detection and Con… Ted Lemon
- RE: [dhcwg] dhcpv6-24: movement detection and Con… Bernie Volz (EUD)
- RE: [dhcwg] dhcpv6-24: movement detection and Con… Bernie Volz (EUD)
- Re: [dhcwg] dhcpv6-24: movement detection and Con… Ted Lemon
- RE: [dhcwg] dhcpv6-24: movement detection and Con… Ralph Droms
- RE: [dhcwg] dhcpv6-24: movement detection and Con… Bernie Volz (EUD)
- RE: [dhcwg] dhcpv6-24: movement detection and Con… Bernie Volz (EUD)
- RE: [dhcwg] dhcpv6-24: movement detection and Con… Bound, Jim
- RE: [dhcwg] dhcpv6-24: movement detection and Con… Bound, Jim
- RE: [dhcwg] dhcpv6-24: movement detection and Con… Bernie Volz (EUD)
- Re: [dhcwg] dhcpv6-24: movement detection and Con… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] dhcpv6-24: movement detection and Con… Ted Lemon
- RE: [dhcwg] dhcpv6-24: movement detection and Con… Bound, Jim
- RE: [dhcwg] dhcpv6-24: movement detection and Con… Bound, Jim
- RE: [dhcwg] dhcpv6-24: movement detection and Con… Bound, Jim
- RE: [dhcwg] dhcpv6-24: movement detection and Con… Bound, Jim