Re: [dhcwg] WGLC for draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-dhcpv6-03 - Respond by Dec 9, 2013

"Bernie Volz (volz)" <volz@cisco.com> Fri, 06 December 2013 21:00 UTC

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From: "Bernie Volz (volz)" <volz@cisco.com>
To: Tom Taylor <tom.taylor.stds@gmail.com>, "dhcwg@ietf.org" <dhcwg@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [dhcwg] WGLC for draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-dhcpv6-03 - Respond by Dec 9, 2013
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No. That is not the case. The 4o6 DHCP client doesn't start communicating until it has received the option(s) from the DHCPv6 server and then it knows whether it got a list of servers to send to or whether it should use the default multicast address. Read the paragraph previous to the one in question.

- Bernie

-----Original Message-----
From: dhcwg [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Tom Taylor
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 3:50 PM
To: Bernie Volz (volz); dhcwg@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [dhcwg] WGLC for draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-dhcpv6-03 - Respond by Dec 9, 2013

I think "initially" is correct. When the client first comes up, it does not normally have a server unicast address. Even though the client and server have not yet agreed on 4o6 provisioning at that point, the client has reached the 4o6 server using multicast.

Tom

On 06/12/2013 3:20 PM, Bernie Volz (volz) wrote:
> Fixed the subject ...
>
> Yes, this is a good point. I am not sure initially is any better.
>
> Perhaps this should just be reworded to say that the client uses one 
> of the two methods (multicast to All_DHCP_Relay_Agents_and_Servers)
> or to the list indicated in the option.
>
> - Bernie
>
> -----Original Message----- From: dhcwg [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org] 
> On Behalf Of Tom Taylor Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 3:02 PM To: 
> Bernie Volz (volz); dhcwg@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [dhcwg] WGLC - draft-ietf-dhc-option-guidelines-12 - 
> Respond by July 15
>
> I've just reviewed all the discussion of Server address and I think 
> what I'm about to say is still relevant. This is just a trivial 
> wording remark.
>
> The last paragraph of Section 4 says:
>
> Typically, a 4o6 DHCP client communicates with the 4o6 DHCP servers 
> using well-known All_DHCP_Relay_Agents_and_Servers multicast address. 
> Client SHOULD request the 4o6 Server Address Option from a
> DHCPv6 server and the server may be configured to respond to the 
> client with one such option that contains one or more unicast 
> addresses of the 4o6 DHCP Servers.  The server includes 4o6 Server 
> Address Option in Advertise and Reply messages.  The format of the 
> option is defined in Section 6.3.
>
> The word "typically" in the first sentence seems to clash with "[The] 
> client SHOULD request ..." in the next sentence. Do you mean to say 
> "initially" rather than "typically"?
>
> Tom Taylor
>
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