Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Option for CableLabs Client Configuration

Paul Duffy <paduffy@cisco.com> Mon, 05 August 2002 15:18 UTC

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Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 11:13:22 -0400
To: Erik Nordmark <Erik.Nordmark@sun.com>
From: Paul Duffy <paduffy@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: [dhcwg] DHCP Option for CableLabs Client Configuration
Cc: Erik Nordmark <Erik.Nordmark@sun.com>, Josh Littlefield <joshl@cisco.com>, Thomas Narten <narten@us.ibm.com>, "Bernie Volz (EUD)" <Bernie.Volz@am1.ericsson.se>, 'Ralph Droms' <rdroms@cisco.com>, dhcwg@ietf.org, nrussell@cisco.com, pgrossma@cisco.com, Matt Osman <M.Osman@cablelabs.com>
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At 07:09 AM 8/5/2002 +0200, Erik Nordmark wrote:
> > >How does this relate to
> > >         RFC 2826 IAB Technical Comment on the Unique DNS Root.
> >
> > Erik, how exactly does a non standard DNS port violate the unique root ?
>
>I asked that question with the hope the proponents would think about
>it carefully. Seems like that failed :-)

My understanding is that the namespace supported by a DNS server and the 
port the DNS protocol run on are orthogonal.


>It seems to me that the DNS as we know it operates on a well-know
>port. Being able to run something using the DNS protocol but
>a different port number sounds like being able to run
>a different naming system with potentially a different root.
>
> > Security is not Cablelab's primary argument here (recall it was #3 in the
> > previous email).  The primary argument is to provide flexibility to our
> > customers.
>
>But ignoring the testing argument (which is an argument
>for an experimental RFC and not a standard IMHO)
>the remaining arguments are:
> >2. Some MSO's may decide to deploy DNS on non standard ports.  Its a
> >flexibility issue.
> >3. Not using a standard port makes it slightly less prone to attack by
> >script kiddies.
>
>#2 doesn't state why folks see this need. One possibility is
>definitely walled gardens and in general using a different DNS
>tree than the rest of us. I've yet to see any other concrete reason
>for this (and I don't buy flexibility for its own sake).
>
>And #3 is just security through obscurity which we IMHO have no
>business promoting in our standards.
>
>   Erik

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Paul Duffy
Cisco Systems, Inc.
paduffy@cisco.com



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