Re: [dhcwg] preliminary comments on draft-ietf-dhc-sedhcpv6-17
Lishan Li <lilishan48@gmail.com> Fri, 04 November 2016 11:35 UTC
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From: Lishan Li <lilishan48@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2016 19:35:18 +0800
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Subject: Re: [dhcwg] preliminary comments on draft-ietf-dhc-sedhcpv6-17
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2016-11-04 2:54 GMT+08:00 神明達哉 <jinmei@wide.ad.jp>: > At Thu, 3 Nov 2016 16:36:46 +0800, > Lishan Li <lilishan48@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > 2. Algorithm negotiation still doesn't make much sense to me. I have > > > many questions and concerns related to this point, but instead of > > > raising each of these, I'd suggest one specific alternative to > > > consider: have the client send a list of supported algorithms in > > > the initial Information-Request, and let the server choose one set > > > of them and keep using the same set. This way we don't have to > > > worry about an "algorithm not supported" error in the middle of a > > > DHCPv6 session (as a corollary, we don't have to worry about how to > > > return an encrypted reply when the client's preferred encryption > > > algorithm isn't supported by the server). An obvious downside of > > > this is that it reveals some information of the client (the list of > > > supported/preferred algorithms), but IMO this is acceptable. > > > > > [LS]: In the current version, the server firstly sends a list of > supported > > algorithms through the Reply message. Then the client processes it > > according to the following method: > [...] > > So it is not possible that the the server does not support the > > acknowledged algorithms. So we also don't need to worry > > about how to return an encrypted Reply when the client's > > preferred encryption algorithm isn's supported by the server. > > One issue of this approach is that there's no way to recover from the > situation where the client doesn't support any of the server-supported > algorithms. [LS]: For this situation, the client can sent the mandatory algorithms set to the server. Also, the server will have to include certificates of all > the supported algorithms and signatures for all combinations of > supported hash and signature algorithms as it doesn't know which of > these works for the client. This along with requiring the server > to always include mandatory algorithms will make this approach > workable, but it seemed to me to be unnecessarily wasteful and > complicated. Hence my suggestion. [LS]: I don't think that the client/server need to contain all the supported algorithms. In default, all the servers and clients support the mandatory encryption, signature, hash algorithms. So the client/server may just need to contain the preferred algorithms and some of mandatory algorithms. And Randy suggested us contain a list of algorithm, not all the algorithm. Besides, the current draft is not clear that the server needs to > include all certificates and all combinations of signatures. It's > also awkward to mention the AlgorithmNotSupported status code if "it > is not possible that the the server does not support the acknowledged > algorithms". So, whether or not my suggestion is adopted, the current > version of draft has a lot of readability and technical issues (and so > I think it's way far from being ready for a last call). These are > actually what I'd raise once I get to the point to discuss the content > of the draft, but I wanted to address the higher level matters first. > [LS]: Maybe this version has some issues. I have submitted the xml/txt files. Could you please review the new version and modify it? I think that we can discussed all the issues and move forward it as soon as possible. And we can improve our efficiency in this way. Thanks a lot. Best Regards, Lishan
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- Re: [dhcwg] preliminary comments on draft-ietf-dh… Lishan Li
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