Re: (ngtrans) RE: [dhcwg] Questions about DHCPv6 draft 22 to support DSTM envir onments
Jim Bound <seamus@bit-net.com> Sun, 13 January 2002 06:34 UTC
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Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 01:26:47 -0500
From: Jim Bound <seamus@bit-net.com>
To: "Bernie Volz (EUD)" <Bernie.Volz@am1.ericsson.se>
Cc: '???' <hclee@i2soft.net>, ngtans???? <ngtrans@sunroof.eng.sun.com>, DHCP???? <dhcwg@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: (ngtrans) RE: [dhcwg] Questions about DHCPv6 draft 22 to support DSTM envir onments
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Bernie, So the client could send in a request IA DSTM Option IA Address Option (empty) To the server that sent the Reconfigure. As one way to implement the behavior. The IA is still valid. regards, /jim On Sun, 13 Jan 2002, Jim Bound wrote: > Hi Bernie, > > Our readings are not similar. The server does not have to send addresses > back with an advertise but just ack the IA. > > In 17.2.2 it says: > > The server MUST include IA options in the Advertise message > containing any addresses that would be assigned to IAs contained in > the Solicit message from the client. The server MAY include some or > all of the IA options from the client in the Advertise message. > > If the server will not assign any addresses to IAs in a subsequent > Request from the client, the server SHOULD either send an Advertise > message to the client that includes only a status code option with > the status code set to AddrUnavail and a status message for the user > or not respond to the Solicit message. > > In the first paragraph the IA refers to the Identity Association Option. > Not the IA Address Option. The wording is correct in the spec. IA by > itself is a reference to the IA option as defined in 22.3. If you then > look at 22.4 it references the IA address option specifically. So IA is > the association (e.g. IAID, T1 and T2, etc.) To reference the addresses > for an IA we say specifically IA Address Option as in 22.4. > > Hence the server MUST return the IAs but may not return addresses and it > can too. The spirit of this was to provide in dhcpv6 the optimization the > working group requested so the client could get addresses after solicit > from the server. But the server policy can be that the client must do a > request to get addresses unless it states specifically ADDRUNAVAIL for a > specific IA (association again). > > On Sat, 12 Jan 2002, Bernie Volz (EUD) wrote: > > > Hum, my understanding of -22 is that a client MUST go (back) to the Solicit state to "request" new IAs. Request, Renew, Rebind can only be used on IAs that have been used in a Solicit (or better yet, returned by a server in an Advertise response to a Solicit): > > > > 18.1.1. Creation and transmission of Request messages > > > > The client uses a Request message to populate IAs with addresses > > and obtain other configuration information. The client includes > > one or more IA options in the Request message, with addresses and > > information about the IAs that were obtained from the server in a > > previous Advertise message. The server then returns addresses and > > other information about the IAs to the client in IA options in a > > Reply message. > > So 18.1.1 is correct that the client can later poplulate IAs with > addresses by sending IA Address Options with an IA with Request. > > > > > I'm not necessarily completely happy with this (as I suspect you aren't), > >but I think it has some benefits - since it is also possible that if > >there are multiple servers, some may be configured to provide DSTM > >addresses and others not? > > > > We are fine with the current text completely. I believe you may be > confusing IAs with IA Address Options. > > In the case of DSTM the server that tells the client they need a DSTM > address in early deployment of IPv6 will also have the DSTM addresses and > possibly nothing else for clients. Its purely a server that knows thru > user administration that specific clients need DSTM addresses. Its an > optimization early on designed in DSTM (go see NGTRANs DSTM discussions > and presentations) to permit this kind of relationship via dhcpv6. > > But as you suggest is also possible and most likely at medium and long > term IPv6 deployment where the client is best off going to solicit to find > the server. > > DHCPv6 -22 supports both mechanisms and our IA and IA Address Options work > well in both cases and we have done a good job in the working group to > support this need from NGTRANS in the community. > > regards, > /jim > > _______________________________________________ dhcwg mailing list dhcwg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dhcwg
- RE: [dhcwg] Questions about DHCPv6 draft 22 to su… Bernie Volz (EUD)
- RE: [dhcwg] Questions about DHCPv6 draft 22 to su… Jim Bound
- RE: [dhcwg] Questions about DHCPv6 draft 22 to su… Bernie Volz (EUD)
- RE: [dhcwg] Questions about DHCPv6 draft 22 to su… Jim Bound
- Re: (ngtrans) RE: [dhcwg] Questions about DHCPv6 … Jim Bound