Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-prefix-pool-opt?
"Leaf Yeh" <leaf.yeh.sdo@gmail.com> Thu, 22 August 2013 13:22 UTC
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From: Leaf Yeh <leaf.yeh.sdo@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-prefix-pool-opt?
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Sten - ... snooping sounds to me like a stop gap solution . Per my understanding about the implementation (or behavior) of the PE router of today, it (or it's CPU) snoops & handles every protocol message in the control (and management) plane in fact. Best Regards, Leaf ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------ From: dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Sten Carlsen Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 7:50 PM To: dhcwg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-prefix-pool-opt? I may easily be wrong here but snooping sounds to me like a stop gap solution i.e. what you do when no better method is available? Seen from outside (my chair) it looks like there might be a need for a protocol to talk directly with the switch/router, possibly first passing a control/admin system that controls what may be set up in various places in the network. On 22/08/13 12:55, Leaf Yeh wrote: Ted - This is a completely different situation-DHCP relay agents _already_ snoop DHCP messages to set up routing between PE and CPE devices. I remember Ted has a discussion with WG-RTGWG on this topic in its session of IETF84, and we had an additional discussion on the ML of Routing-Discussion. Per these discussion records before and the personal feedback from Adrian (RTG-AD), my conclusion (or impression) sounds that 'use DHCPv6 to add & withdraw route on the PE router' will get rough consensus (or will not irritate big controversy) in IETF. Best Regards, Leaf -----Original Message----- From: dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ted Lemon Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 12:29 AM To: <sarikaya@ieee.org>; Behcet Sarikaya Cc: <dhcwg@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-prefix-pool-opt? On Aug 21, 2013, at 9:00 AM, Behcet Sarikaya <sarikaya2012@gmail.com> wrote: Isn't it not good to use DHCP options to establish routes? Remember what happened to It's not possible to get IETF consensus on a DHCP option to deliver routes to clients. I never said it was an inherently bad idea. The reason I asked MIF to stop working on it was that the endless floggings were getting in the way of doing real work. Really, preventing us from doing real work at all. This is a completely different situation-DHCP relay agents _already_ snoop DHCP messages to set up routing between PE and CPE devices. _______________________________________________ dhcwg mailing list dhcwg@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dhcwg _______________________________________________ dhcwg mailing list dhcwg@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dhcwg -- Best regards Sten Carlsen No improvements come from shouting: "MALE BOVINE MANURE!!!"
- [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft-iet… Tomek Mrugalski
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… Leaf Yeh
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… Tomek Mrugalski
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… Leaf Yeh
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… Sten Carlsen
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… Ole Troan
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… Jean-Francois.TremblayING
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… Sten Carlsen
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… Sten Carlsen
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… Ralph Droms
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… Leaf Yeh
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… Sten Carlsen
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… Leaf Yeh
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… Leaf Yeh
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… Leaf Yeh
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… Roberta Maglione
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… Leaf Yeh
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… Ole Troan
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… Ole Troan
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… sthaug
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… Leaf Yeh
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… Leaf Yeh
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… Roberta Maglione
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… Leaf Yeh
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… Roberta Maglione
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… Leaf Yeh
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… Ralph Droms
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… Leaf Yeh
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… Leaf Yeh
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… Leaf Yeh
- Re: [dhcwg] Anyone interested in continuing draft… Tomek Mrugalski
- [dhcwg] Announcing draft-petrescu-relay-route-pd-… Alexandru Petrescu