Re: [dhcwg] DHCPv6 and IPv6ND

Alexandru Petrescu <alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com> Thu, 16 November 2017 06:38 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dhcwg] DHCPv6 and IPv6ND
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Le 16/11/2017 à 06:29, Ted Lemon a écrit :
> I'm having trouble figuring out how changing the port would help.
> You'd still have to make the same modifications.   You'd still have
> to define a business model.

_If_ there is a standard that says port number is variable, and if 
hardware manufacturer implements it, then it will help.

If not, not.

If so, this entire issue about making DHCPv6 work on 3GPP networks 
should be forgotten.   It's impossible to make it work.

That puts the discussion of DHCPv6 and IPv6ND outside the 3GPP context 
altogether.

For the business model: I am not an economist.

Alex

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