Re: [dhcwg] DHCPv6 and IPv6ND

Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Wed, 15 November 2017 09:07 UTC

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From: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 17:07:12 +0800
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Subject: Re: [dhcwg] DHCPv6 and IPv6ND
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How can it be a hardware problem?  Bits are bits. Don't you mean "a problem
with software that runs on a particular hardware platform?"

On Nov 15, 2017 15:48, "Alexandre Petrescu" <alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
> Le 15/11/2017 à 03:49, Ted Lemon a écrit :
>
>> On Nov 15, 2017, at 10:33 AM, Alexandru Petrescu <
>> alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com <mailto:alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> They dont understand that nobody asks them to implement DHCPv6 on the
>>> modem.  The DHCPv6 happens between ARM and the cellular operator.  Both
>>> sides are ready, yet the middle (the 'modem') blocks 547.
>>>
>>> That's the problem.
>>>
>>
>> I'm confused.   I thought you were saying that we can't do ND, but it
>> sounds like what we can't do is DHCP.   And the reason we can't do it is a
>> misconfigured middlebox, not a protocol issue.
>>
>
> I was saying the DHCPv6+ND is unsolved in cellular.  It is not a protocol
> issue but a hardware problem.
>
> There are protocol solutions to the hardware problems, like ability to
> vary port numbers.
>
> Or we can further wait for hardware issues to be solved, if ever.
>
> Alex
>
>
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