Re: [dhcwg] [Int-area] AD sponsoring draft-thaler-iftype-reg-02

tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com> Fri, 14 June 2019 16:28 UTC

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From: tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com>
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Subject: Re: [dhcwg] [Int-area] AD sponsoring draft-thaler-iftype-reg-02
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Suresh

The concern I have is that it muddies the waters further on the standing
of tunnels so while I think that its proposals for ifType per se are
fine, I would like it to make explicit that tunnels are out-of-scope at
this time.

I have been trying to reconcile the workings of softwire, in creating a
tunnel YANG module, with the existing IANA structure and failing.  I
believe that is because the current status of tunnels is unclear.  Thus
the softwire I-D refers to a registry that does not exist (as such)
although the URL that the softwire I-D does. I think the timing
unfortunate in that IMHO the softwires I-D will get pressed ahead before
this work can complete, so quite what this I-D then says about tunnels
will be coloured by what then exists for tunnels.

So this I-D should make clear what a tunnel is, when it is not an
interface, but otherwise declaring tunnels out-of-scope, for a future
I-D to do a comparable job for tunnels, setting up a tunnel registry
from which MIB modules, YANG modules and anything else can be derived
(as long as the relevant data is supplied - SMI needs integers, YANG
does not, which I-Ds do not always recognise although the Designated
Experts can take care of that).

Finally, when I first encountered this I-D I asked on NETCONF and NETMOD
WG lists if anyone knew of it, where it was being worked on and got no
reply - which surprised me.  I note that you have not copied them
although they were involved in making the interface type registry what
it currently is when creating the YANG module for interface types.  I
wonder if other WG have an interest, CCAMP or TEAS perhaps.  I agree
that int-area is the WG best equipped to work on it and that it needs
working on.

Tom Petch

----- Original Message -----
From: "Suresh Krishnan" <Suresh@kaloom.com>
To: "int-area" <int-area@ietf.org>; "6man" <ipv6@ietf.org>; "dhcwg"
<dhcwg@ietf.org>; "V6 Ops List" <v6ops@ietf.org>; <opsawg@ietf.org>;
<softwires@ietf.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 7:22 PM

Hi all,
  I would like to AD sponsor the following draft that provides
guidelines for definition of new interface types in the IANA IfType
registries

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-thaler-iftype-reg-02

If you have any concerns either with the contents of the draft, or about
me AD sponsoring it please let me know before 2019/06/26.

Thanks
Suresh

NOTE: I have CCed: all the working groups that I thought could be
potentially
interested in this work. If you think I have missed out some WG(s)
please let
me know.



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