Re: [dhcwg] Citing 'draft-ietf-dhc-secdhcpv6' (rfc3315bis)

"Templin, Fred L" <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com> Thu, 18 August 2016 22:42 UTC

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From: "Templin, Fred L" <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com>
To: 神明達哉 <jinmei@wide.ad.jp>
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Subject: Re: [dhcwg] Citing 'draft-ietf-dhc-secdhcpv6' (rfc3315bis)
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Hi, I already made a stronger case as follows:

> I think what that means in terms of this draft is that for some use cases all
> that is needed is for the client to include a Signature option in its DHCPv6
> messages to the server. The client does not need to include a Certificate
> option nor any encryption options. So, I would like it if the draft could
> include a simple "authentication only" mode of operation.

Thanks - Fred
fred.l.templin@boeing.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: jinmei.tatuya@gmail.com [mailto:jinmei.tatuya@gmail.com] On Behalf Of ????
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> To: Templin, Fred L <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com>
> Cc: Bernie Volz (volz) <volz@cisco.com>; Francis Dupont <Francis.Dupont@fdupont.fr>; <dhcwg@ietf.org> <dhcwg@ietf.org>
> Subject: Re: [dhcwg] Citing 'draft-ietf-dhc-secdhcpv6' (rfc3315bis)
> 
> At Tue, 16 Aug 2016 21:35:34 +0000,
> "Templin, Fred L" <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com> wrote:
> 
> > I glanced through the document, and my first impression is that it has become
> > overkill for what I need. For my needs, there is already link-layer security and
> > so I do not need encryption between the client and server.
> [...]
> > I think what that means in terms of this draft is that for some use cases all
> > that is needed is for the client to include a Signature option in its DHCPv6
> > messages to the server. The client does not need to include a Certificate
> > option nor any encryption options. So, I would like it if the draft could
> > include a simple "authentication only" mode of operation.
> 
> The currently described approach is based on a WG consensus made at
> the Yokohama IETF last November.  So you'll need a stronger argument
> than "it's overkill for me" if you want to change that.
> 
> --
> JINMEI, Tatuya