Re: [dhcwg] Review of Service-Discovery-Type options in DHCP
David Conrad <david.conrad@nominum.com> Wed, 17 July 2002 14:29 UTC
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Subject: Re: [dhcwg] Review of Service-Discovery-Type options in DHCP
From: David Conrad <david.conrad@nominum.com>
To: Jitesh N Verma <jitesh@india.hp.com>, Bernie.Volz@am1.ericsson.se
Cc: Ted Lemon <Ted.Lemon@nominum.com>, bmukherj@shoshin.uwaterloo.ca, cheshire@apple.com, dhcpwg <dhcwg@ietf.org>
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Jitesh, On 7/17/02 5:39 AM, "Jitesh N Verma" <jitesh@india.hp.com> wrote: > Hi all, > Around a year back, I had sent a mail to this mailing list citing > that other working groups (like Stateless Autoconfiguration, DNS etc.) > are trying to hijack DHCP working group's agenda. Now, I am seeing that fear > becoming realty. Lots of folks have hammers for all those things they think look like nails... :-) > I just want to raise one point against DNS implementing server location. > DNS name resolution is hitting perfomance bottleneck due to large size of > database. No it isn't. Particular implementations are hitting bottlenecks for various reasons, however I know of a couple of implementations that can do wire speed on 100 Mbps without breaking a sweat. There is empirical evidence the DNS scales to hundreds of millions of zones or tens of millions of names in a zone while responding to tens of thousands of queries per second. I am skeptical that any service location use of DNS would add significantly to the scaling requirements. However, if you want to talk about scaling, how many DHCP servers out there can do more than (say) 30,000 lease allocations or even renewals per second? > My point is why to increase load to already overloaded DNS server > with extra features (which are already available in DHCP)? DNS, in particular the SRV record, was specifically designed to provide information on where to find a particular service. Since SRV contains both a priority and a preference field, I believe it can provide more flexibility to clients attempting to locate a service than DHCP can. In any event, I personally believe having multiple tools in a toolbox is a good thing. I can imagine scenarios in which either DHCP or DNS or SLP are better suited to the service location function than the others. Where it would be wrong to go would be to twist the protocol to meet a particular requirement that one of the other protocols already meets. Rgds, -drc _______________________________________________ dhcwg mailing list dhcwg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dhcwg
- [dhcwg] Review of Service-Discovery-Type options … Stuart Cheshire
- Re: [dhcwg] Review of Service-Discovery-Type opti… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] Review of Service-Discovery-Type opti… John Schnizlein
- RE: [dhcwg] Review of Service-Discovery-Type opti… Chris Pearson
- Re: [dhcwg] Review of Service-Discovery-Type opti… Ralph Droms
- Re: [dhcwg] Review of Service-Discovery-Type opti… Roop Mukherjee
- Re: [dhcwg] Review of Service-Discovery-Type opti… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] Review of Service-Discovery-Type opti… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] Review of Service-Discovery-Type opti… Ted Lemon
- RE: [dhcwg] Review of Service-Discovery-Type opti… Bernie Volz (EUD)
- RE: [dhcwg] Review of Service-Discovery-Type opti… Bernie Volz (EUD)
- Re: [dhcwg] Review of Service-Discovery-Type opti… Stuart Cheshire
- Re: [dhcwg] Review of Service-Discovery-Type opti… Stuart Cheshire
- Re: [dhcwg] Review of Service-Discovery-Type opti… Jitesh N Verma
- Re: [dhcwg] Review of Service-Discovery-Type opti… Jitesh N Verma
- Re: [dhcwg] Review of Service-Discovery-Type opti… Erik Guttman
- Re: [dhcwg] Review of Service-Discovery-Type opti… Roop Mukherjee
- Re: [dhcwg] Review of Service-Discovery-Type opti… John Schnizlein
- Re: [dhcwg] Review of Service-Discovery-Type opti… David Conrad
- RE: [dhcwg] Review of Service-Discovery-Type opti… Chris Pearson
- Re: [dhcwg] Review of Service-Discovery-Type opti… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] Review of Service-Discovery-Type opti… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] Review of Service-Discovery-Type opti… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] Review of Service-Discovery-Type opti… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] Review of Service-Discovery-Type opti… Erik Guttman
- Re: [dhcwg] Review of Service-Discovery-Type opti… Raymond Jayaraj