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From: "Templin, Fred L" <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com>
To: "Bernie Volz (volz)" <volz@cisco.com>, "dhcwg@ietf.org" <dhcwg@ietf.org>
CC: Ralph Droms <rdroms.ietf@gmail.com>
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Hi Bernie,

I read the entire document, and have only one comment. In section 18.3, the
sentence:

  "The server must be aware of the recommendations on packet sizes and the
    use of fragmentation in Section 5 of [RFC2460]."

Suggest changing this to:

  "The server must honor the recommendations on packet sizes and the
    use of fragmentation in Section 5 of [RFC2460]."

Also, this same sentence appears a second time in Section 18.3.9. Since
Section 18.3 already applies to all server response message types, I believ=
e
this duplicate sentence in Section 18.3.9 is redundant and could be removed=
.

I have no other comments. IMHO, the document is ready for advancement
pending the resolution of the above.

Thanks - Fred


From: dhcwg [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bernie Volz (volz)
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 9:54 AM
To: dhcwg@ietf.org
Cc: Ralph Droms <rdroms.ietf@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [dhcwg] WGLC for draft-ietf-dhc-rfc3315bis-08 - Respond by Jun=
e 6th, 2017
Importance: High

Hi:

Tomek and I decided to extend the WGLC by about a week (to June 6th) in the=
 hopes of soliciting more feedback.

Please take some time to review this document as this work is a critical pr=
oduct of the DHC WG!


-          Bernie

From: dhcwg [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bernie Volz (volz)
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 10:53 AM
To: dhcwg@ietf.org<mailto:dhcwg@ietf.org>
Cc: Ralph Droms <rdroms.ietf@gmail.com<mailto:rdroms.ietf@gmail.com>>
Subject: [dhcwg] WGLC for draft-ietf-dhc-rfc3315bis-08 - Respond by May 30t=
h, 2017

Hello:

The co-authors believe that all of the issues reported for the last August =
WGLC on draft-ietf-dhc-rfc3315bis-05 have now been resolved. But, because o=
f the large number of changes, the DHC WG co-chairs feel another "WGLC" is =
appropriate.

Please review this document and provide your comments and whether you suppo=
rt the document moving forward by May 30th, 2017. The DHC WG co-chairs will=
 again ask Ralph to evaluate the responses. We are doing a 3 week WGLC as t=
he document is rather large and important to get right!

Please see https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dhc-rfc3315bis-08.

If you'd like to see the differences from the 05 version, use the diff tool=
 at https://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff:

https://tools.ietf.org//rfcdiff?url1=3Dhttps://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf=
-dhc-rfc3315bis-08.txt&url2=3Dhttps://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-dhc-rfc3=
315bis-05.txt<https://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=3Dhttps://tools.ietf.org/=
id/draft-ietf-dhc-rfc3315bis-08.txt&url2=3Dhttps://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-=
ietf-dhc-rfc3315bis-05.txt>

The list of issues we recorded and action/assignee details are at https://d=
ocs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1c3obOwmRQDldw0u_kv85B5Q4LnjnmvUp2MmsHDGmW98 =
(some additional issues are in https://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/dhcpv6bis/=
report).

One very recent change to highlight is https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ie=
tf-dhc-rfc3315bis-08#section-18.2.12 - this was to address a criticism that=
 DHCPv6 is not responsive enough for some network configuration changes.

The co-authors thank those that reviewed this document during the previous =
WGLC and hope that those same reviewers (and hopefully more) will endeavor =
to do one more thorough review of the document.


-          Tomek & Bernie

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Hi Bernie,<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">I read the entire docu=
ment, and have only one comment. In section 18.3, the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">sentence:<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp; &#8220;The serv=
er must be aware of the recommendations on packet sizes and the<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; use=
 of fragmentation in Section 5 of [RFC2460].&#8221;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Suggest changing this =
to:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp; &#8220;The serv=
er must honor the recommendations on packet sizes and the<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; use=
 of fragmentation in Section 5 of [RFC2460].&#8221;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Also, this same senten=
ce appears a second time in Section 18.3.9. Since<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Section 18.3 already a=
pplies to all server response message types, I believe<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">this duplicate sentenc=
e in Section 18.3.9 is redundant and could be removed.<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">I have no other commen=
ts. IMHO, the document is ready for advancement<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">pending the resolution=
 of the above.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thanks - Fred<o:p></o:=
p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> dhcwg [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org] <=
b>On Behalf Of
</b>Bernie Volz (volz)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 31, 2017 9:54 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> dhcwg@ietf.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Ralph Droms &lt;rdroms.ietf@gmail.com&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [dhcwg] WGLC for draft-ietf-dhc-rfc3315bis-08 - Respond=
 by June 6th, 2017<br>
<b>Importance:</b> High<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Hi:<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Tomek and I decided to=
 extend the WGLC by about a week (to June 6<sup>th</sup>) in the hopes of s=
oliciting more feedback.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Please take some time =
to review this document as this work is a critical product of the DHC WG!<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level=
1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><span style=3D"m=
so-list:Ignore">-<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Bernie<o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> dhcwg [<a href=3D"mailto:dhcwg-bounces@=
ietf.org">mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bernie Volz (volz)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 09, 2017 10:53 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:dhcwg@ietf.org">dhcwg@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Ralph Droms &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rdroms.ietf@gmail.com">rdroms.=
ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [dhcwg] WGLC for draft-ietf-dhc-rfc3315bis-08 - Respond by =
May 30th, 2017<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hello:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The co-authors believe that all of the issues report=
ed for the last August WGLC on draft-ietf-dhc-rfc3315bis-05 have now been r=
esolved. But, because of the large number of changes, the DHC WG co-chairs =
feel another &#8220;WGLC&#8221; is appropriate.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Please review this document and provide your comment=
s and whether you support the document moving forward by May 30<sup>th</sup=
>, 2017. The DHC WG co-chairs will again ask Ralph to evaluate the response=
s. We are doing a 3 week WGLC as the
 document is rather large and important to get right!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Please see <a href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/dr=
aft-ietf-dhc-rfc3315bis-08">
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dhc-rfc3315bis-08</a>.<o:p></o:p></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">If you&#8217;d like to see the differences from the =
05 version, use the diff tool at
<a href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff">https://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff</=
a>:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=3Dhtt=
ps://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-dhc-rfc3315bis-08.txt&amp;url2=3Dhttps://=
tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-dhc-rfc3315bis-05.txt">https://tools.ietf.org/=
/rfcdiff?url1=3Dhttps://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-dhc-rfc3315bis-08.txt&=
amp;url2=3Dhttps://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-dhc-rfc3315bis-05.txt</a><o=
:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The list of issues we recorded and action/assignee d=
etails are at
<a href=3D"https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1c3obOwmRQDldw0u_kv85B5Q4=
LnjnmvUp2MmsHDGmW98">
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1c3obOwmRQDldw0u_kv85B5Q4LnjnmvUp2Mm=
sHDGmW98</a> (some additional issues are in
<a href=3D"https://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/dhcpv6bis/report">https://trac=
.tools.ietf.org/group/dhcpv6bis/report</a>).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">One very recent change to highlight is <a href=3D"ht=
tps://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dhc-rfc3315bis-08#section-18.2.12">
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dhc-rfc3315bis-08#section-18.2.12</a=
> &#8211; this was to address a criticism that DHCPv6 is not responsive eno=
ugh for some network configuration changes.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The co-authors thank those that reviewed this docume=
nt during the previous WGLC and hope that those same reviewers (and hopeful=
ly more) will endeavor to do one more thorough review of the document.<o:p>=
</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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