RE: [dhcwg] Comments on draft-ietf-dhc-3315id-for-v4-03

> And I really doubt that 
> Microsoft will ever make something like a client identifier a 
> user-configurable option (like Apple does).

Well, I don't know about Win XPe, but see
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;172408.

- Bernie

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org] 
> On Behalf Of David W. Hankins
> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 11:51 AM
> To: dhcwg@ietf.org
> Cc: rbhibbs@pacbell.net
> Subject: Re: [dhcwg] Comments on draft-ietf-dhc-3315id-for-v4-03
> 
> 
> On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 06:34:13PM -0700, Ted Lemon wrote:
> > different IP addresses.   There is no harm in this, unless you are 
> > concerned about excessive IP address consumption.   If you are 
> 
> I'm really confused by this statement, because I thought I 
> documented the harm.
> 
> Go back and read what I said about Win XPe please?  I never 
> answerd your other mail because your recommendations about 
> alternative actions equally surprised me...they won't work.  
> You also seem fixated upon having the PXE client send 'a 
> different client identifier' when in fact the problem is that 
> it doesn't send that option at all, and the problem would be 
> made worse if it ever did.
> 
> So there's quite a lot of confusion floating around already.
> 
> 
> To briefly restate, an undocumented behaviour which fixes 
> this problem without user intervention or new PXE clients has 
> arisen in the majority of DHCP servers.  At least one client 
> has arisen (Win XPe) that relies upon this behaviour in order 
> to boot...at all.
> 
> So it is no longer about over-consumption of addresses.  That 
> issue, and the way that those servers choose to solve it for 
> their paying customers, is what has led us now to this impasse.
> 
> > concerned about that, there are stopgap solutions to get 
> you over the
> > hump until the last of those PXE cards dies a well-deserved death.
> 
> That will not happen.
> 
> I don't think that any iteration of 'dumb bootstrap device' 
> will ever learn anything more complicated than it absolutely 
> has to, for darn good reasons.  And I really doubt that 
> Microsoft will ever make something like a client identifier a 
> user-configurable option (like Apple does).
> 
> -- 
> David W. Hankins		"If you don't do it right the 
> first time,
> Operations Engineer			you'll just have to do 
> it again."
> Internet Systems Consortium, Inc.		-- Jack T. Hankins
> 

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